For raid the only worthwhile gems for both Holy/Disc are Stormbringer’s Runed Citrine + Fathomdweller’s Runed Citrine + Legendary Skipper’s Citrine or Windsinger’s Rune Citrine. All the healing + dps gems are pretty bad.
I’ve been messing around with different ring combo’s for M+ though.
On Disc in M+: Thunderlord’s Crackling Citrine + Undersea Overseer’s Citrine has been 12% of my overall dps and is the best dps wombo combo. Windsinger’s Rune Citrine is the better gems because you can prio your haste stat.
All the healing/absorb gems are bad on Disc because most of the healing gets sniped by Atonement.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bXxHBPtMVAvTW3Cw?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=151
On Holy in M+: Thunderlord’s Crackling Citrine + Mariner’s Hallowed Citrine + Legendary Skipper’s Citrine or Windsinger’s Rune Citrine is a pretty good combo.
The Thunderlord gem is about 6% of my dps and the Mariner is 6% of my healing. I’m not sure if the Mariner’s gem procs Echo though. Definitely seems to be a pretty good combo for Holy.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bXxHBPtMVAvTW3Cw?fight=5&type=damage-done
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Thanks for the suggestions! I’ll try out your holy M+ combo !
This reduces the group’s dps though because you have 1 less person proccing roaring from their skippers for huge stat buffs.
The main reason the ring is good is the following interaction.
Everyone has their all stats thunder gem + skippers.
Any of the group’s 5 skippers procs. The skippers procs the 1/11 chance to roll roaring. The roaring gives the other 4 their stat gem power boosted to 150% for 15 seconds.
5 group members, 4+ hasted procs per minute. 1/11 chance per proc. Works out at like 40% uptime during combat.
Right now the thunder gem is 2.7k stats. So 150% boosted and x 4 for the other group members makes a skippers roaring proc 16k group stats.
Healers might run thunder DPS gem instead but the same principle applies. Other people’s skippers rolling roaring causes your DPS thunder gem to trigger for big damage.
I don’t actually have that gem. I’ll have to see if I can get it.
edit: Looks like there’s a vendor at 65.80, 41.93
Skippers? You buy it from the turtle, no event required. It procs a random gem (Any of the other 11) 4+ haste times a minute at 150% power. If it procs a stat gem it gives the stats for 15 seconds.
So skippers procs roaring procs everyone elses thunder gems is 4x 4k stats for 15 seconds.
5 people doing that all sharing stats buffs with eachother is a LOT of stats.
That’s if people actually use the ring. I haven’t seen people using it.
Then they’re idiots. This is BY FAR the strongest thing you can be doing with a ring slot now that the gems are available.
What’s the actual benefit though? The whole group gets 2.7k stats, but you’re also losing more then that on the ring.
4k. Stats. 150% boost.
Skippers can also just proc one of the other 3 stat gems itself, or a damage gem etc. And other people using skippers means you’re getting the value from the roaring procs they trigger.
It’s a bit of a prisoners dilemma though. It’s only good if everyone does it. But it is very good.
Yeah, that’s the issue though. Everyone has to be doing it.
If they aren’t using it then it’s better to just run gems that only benefit you directly. Also, since WoWhead doesn’t write a guide on it the sheep won’t follow.
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Pretty sure every single guide writer recommends skippers, wordup might’ve not done so but only as a precautionary measure if the interaction got fixed. There was a compilation of “Best for XYZ” a few days ago.
Almost none of the guides recommend the Singing.
Maybe it should be updated?
But the guides almost all recommend skippers, thats the one that matters.
What would you suggest for citrines on my disc priest? Pretty curious about what people are running and finding it a bit difficult to find specifics.
M+ oriented question to be clear.
Runed Runed Skippers and make sure everyone else is doing the same.
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That Skipper’s will proc stat bonus equip effects?
Skippers can proc any of the other 11 gems, even ones you aren’t wearing.
If skippers procs roaring, the roaring effect will give everyone else 1000 of each secondary stat for 15 seconds.
And it follows that someone else’s skippers proccing roaring will give you 1000 of each secondary stat for 15 seconds.
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So probably looking at fathomdweller’s and stormbringer’s for teh mastery and just let skipper’s do its thing?
Correct. Stats, stats, skippers
And if you are doing delve solo content you can use the 3rd stats gem.
There’s some testing to be done probably with the DPS proc frost gem though. Specifically because mastery doesnt provide any damage value.
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