Why do people keep pushing the ‘‘just following orders’’ excuse? It’s not a good excuse. It’s never been.
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I’ve run the quest twice. And you can look at the quotes in the wiki. In no way do the guards make any objection to experimentation on him. They are disgusted by the sight of someone being turned to ooze. But the never try and stop you, or even make any suggestion you shouldn’t.
There is nothing that what the Captain says that says he has any objection to experimenting on the prisoner other than the experimenting failing. And, in fact, when he sends you to make up for what you have done, it addresses his concern about being attacked by the blight.
I mean, not word is said about experimenting on people being wrong. Nobody is punished. Nobody does anything to stop it. I have to say, if the Alliance considers experimenting on people to be a horrible crime, there is little sign of that here.
I have to say, a leader protecting his people is not list of “selfish” behavior, especially if the alternatives are futile acts.
I’m not. Red herring.
Then we’re just going to have to agree to disagree.
I can’t get you to see what you choose not to see.
Yeah, this is beneath what was a decent discussion. If you can’t make a good argument, make some personal slight?
I have to say, my experience is those who are least willing to look objectively that are the first to claim the other side has a closed mine.
Personally, I don’t think war crimes committed by Arthas against Alliance citizens should count as War Crimes against the Horde, since the citizens of Lordareon weren’t part of the Horde when he committed them, and he was largely a rogue agent beginning at the Culling of Stratholme.
Why did you necro a 3 year old thread?
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Who decides what’s a crime?
There’s no such thing as an ICC which has bindings on the two factions and any neutral parties in addition to them.
In history the only countries ever penalised by warcrimes are those that lose a conflict tand that punishment is enforced by the victors.
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Why aren’t Pandaren included in this list? There’s also 11 Alliance races listed and 9 Horde races listed.
I counted 10 alliance races. Horde only has 9 listed because he forgot Highmountain tauren.
Gnomes weren’t listed in bold
Oh right, and they missed the mag’har as well. Don’t know how I overlooked that.
This is assuming that we have High/Blood Elves that are 9.000+ years old.
Which I do not believe we have.
So much like with the Kael’thas issue… this can be deleted.
Also, Mu’ru’s capture and support of genociding orcs can be attributed to void elves as well.
The capture of Mu’ru was also a manipulative trick by the naaru to bring the Blood Elves into the Army of the Light
A’dal and the others were simply following a vision that Velen had about Lady Liadrin and the Blood Knights and their eventual redemption. Which ultimately did come true
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As said.
A manipulative trick by the naaru to bring the Blood Elves into the Army of the Light.
Whether it was done with inspiration from Velen’s vision or not is irrelevant.
How is manipulation via Naaru when Velen was the one having the vision and informed A’dal of what was eventually going to come to pass?
They simply let things play out as they were meant to.
Because it would lead to the Blood Elves being brought into the light.
“We can avoid this thing… but not avoiding it does good things for us… so… let us have it happen.”
How is it a crime?
It is not.
I am just opening the idea that the Blood Elves taking Mu’ru was not necessarily a dooming crime in itself.
It was quite bad though regardless, due to intention.
The Army of Light is not a villainous organization. I’m not seeing what’s bad about it.