Drakes… It would follow the pattern, although they could have been more clear on that though…
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To be fair I think heroic raid should drop aspects. Mythic raiders should get top tier loot from the boss, no more upgrades needed.
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I’ll refresh then:
The general forums have a large amount of casual normal and heroic raiders who hate m+ because (timer, toxicity, preference, increased personal responsibility required, stress of applying, pick a reason). But they also hate getting compared their guildies in better gear that they got from m+, and think “if only I had the same gear I would do the same damage.”
And rather than acknowledge that raiding is the most time efficient way to get gear or advocate for raid lockouts to be adjusted, they advocate instead to make m+ gearing less generous as their preferred path to “level” the playing field.
They don’t see the forest for the trees. High level M+ is the reason strong players are okay staying in below average raiding guilds because it gives those players a competitive outlet and equipped them well enough to carry the rocks to AOTC. Without M+, far more guilds would struggle to retain talent and far fewer raiders would have their friends able to carry them to AOTC each season.
It’s the below average raiders who wanted their M+ guildies gear nerfed who asked for this repeatedly on the forums. But moving the bar to a 9 or 10 doesn’t put it out of reach for the dungeon runner, it puts it out of reach for the below average raider who struggled to get ksm. It will also hurt overall raid ilvl and short of an easier raid tier will mean generally less AOTC achievement.
I can carry my heaviest rock through a 6, but I can’t carry them through a 9 or 10.
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I’m quitting PVE to play Rated Battleground Blitz full time in WW anyway, so I don’t care.
But flightstones + crests + crest levels is a collective loss system, IMO.
Upgrading should take one type of currency that drops from all content, with the harder content yielding more of it, making the only content limitation the max ilvl of different class of gear that drops from different content (veteran, hero, etc.)
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This is looking in the right direction. It doesn’t make sense in the current system that M + 2 drops champion gear but awards wyrm crests. The crest farming meta is dumb.
This is a stupid idea.
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Pointless change. It will annoy people who can do an 8 and 9 but 9 will be a tad more tedious, it will do nothing for high range people for the change is irrelevant. And to those who are climbing up it is just making things more difficult.
Especially considering unless you’re in a guild you’re restricted in how many mythic bosses you can usually kill which ultimately makes mythic plus the best way to grinding for aspect crests.
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M+ is a pig trough of free loot; that people actually complain about things like this just baffles me.
Every +1 for keystones should add an additional affix. THEN come to me and complain it’s too hard and we can talk. Until then… give me a break.
You gotta stop saying stuff like this man. It’s not true at all lmfaoooo
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So where would you place it?
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I’d also like to see them implement +15 crests for a timed key.
One upgrade a key.
Why are you always so angy babes xD
take a chill pill
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Why would you want the game to have excessive grinds?
That’s funny, what Blizz is doing is mostly in line with what I suggested in another thread a little while back:
Glad to see Blizz has finally woken up to how completely nonsensical M+ crest drops are.
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You got to admit being able to get a full mythic raid ilvl by spamming +6’s was too easy. Probably why they changed it.
Nah, the only reason crests and gear tracks work right now in season 4 is because it’s an abbreviated “greatest hits” season.
Giving out crests and gear so easily in a new xpac’s first season would be the real mistake.
The higher requirements for aspects don’t bother me.
It’s the Drakes not dropping from +2 and 3s for me. That sounds really bloody annoying.
EDIT: I really hate inconsistency lol. M0 drops crests, but +2 and +3s pointless outside of i guess Flightstone farming, until +4s and ups drop crests again.
Like…whhhhy?
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Well yeah, and that you can get a full set of maxed heroic-level gear just from doing +2s. It’s stupid.
I don’t know it doesn’t seem that bad to me.
This affects raiders who want to raid log more negatively than those who are already spamming keys for upgrades since you don’t get to smash out easier +6’s you have to do +9’s. You are now going to have to spend more time in m+. Outside of making alts extremely annoying this change is fine unless TWW dungeons are absolutely brutal in terms of tuning which I expect will be for the first few weeks.
It feels like they are trying to pressure people to just run delves here. Then again this change was datamined and could very well be wrong.
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It would be harder for people who want to raid log, but that’s better for the game compared to designated avenues of free loot.
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