Crashing, freezing, and stuttering after 8.3 [Intel GPUs]

I don’t usually post on forums because i usually just deal with the issue and so far I have but this has gotten absurd. I was doing Lesser Visions and my game froze and when it came back I had died and couldn’t finish my daily quest so this makes the game unplayable and I can’t do the new raid because I am scared it will crash and cost my group a boss kill or something. Everything was fine before 8.3. I really hope they fix this soon.
My mac is a Late 2016 Model with a 2.9 GJz Dual-Core Intel Core i5 processor and 8 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 memory and the graphics is Intel Iris Graphics 550 1536 MB

Please fix this I can’t kill bosses with a lot of people around or else my game crashes and when I am fighting some bosses alone it also freezes. I just want to enjoy the new patch and I can’t

Welp since they are essentially saying “screw macs get windows" it looks like I won’t play wow…

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Just wanted to underline the point that bootcamping your Mac is not an acceptable workaround to Blizzard’s major screwup here, and another day of silence is 1000% bogus.

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Yep, sub runs out 2/7 and i’m not renewing. Been playing for 13 years off and on, this is the first time i’m walking away against my will. It’s a shame.

The fact we are paying for an unplayable dumpster fire is unacceptable.

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Just adding to the pile, since I tried submitting a ticket and got the error message “You can’t submit this ticket.”

macOS Mojave 10.14.6, fully updated
iMac 21.5 inch, 2017, brand new
Graphics: Intel Iris Plus Graphics 640 1536 MB

All “lockup and crash error” steps have been completed, and update downloaded, and still having the problem. Game graphics freeze, sound continues in background, but game is unresponsive to input and requires either force-quit or hard restart of computer.

:frowning:

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4 years, I’ve been running this mac book pro. Until now, never once in four years has an application completely hung the machine to a hard reboot. Grats Blizzard! That’s some Achievement!

Edit: ofc, should include Activision in this achievement. Laying off…800 QA workers? Brilliant!

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I am trying to submit a ticket to refund the shadowland epic edition preorder if we can’t get a refund of game time. this is ridiculous that we can’t play for the end of an expansion like this. If they seriously expect an entire os to be unplayable (or at least unplayable until shadowlands) this is just unacceptable I mean like I have stated on other forum posts THIS POST IS THE OFFICIAL 8.3 ISSUE RESPONCE TO THE MAC ISSUES. The fact the qc is THIS bad they literally can’t even be bothered to copy/paste a blue text post or even have an mvp respond to this is unbelievable and dumbfounding

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Well I don’t have the eGPU that he has, but I can play WoW on ultra settings at 60 fps without issues. Until I try joining a raid group that is (then I drop to 2fps for no reason whatsoever as one of the new 8.3 patch features). But for solo content running WoW with an eGPU is actually a really nice experience.

Hopefully this is fixed in tomorrow’s patch. I was really looking forward to the 8.3 raid but it sucks to be benched from raiding because Blizzard fired their QA staff and doesn’t know how to fix whatever they broke and not because of any fault of my own.

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I have been able to receive a refund of shadowlands! that’s $80 back in my pocket wooo! if you preordered that you may want to go ahead and cancel your preorder!

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Do they remove your 120 boosted character?

So some of you got some success being refunded for your shadowlands preorder? if so I need to get on that immediately I could use that hunk of cash back lol, blizzard doesn’t deserve it

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Do not know or care. I wasted it on a class I am REALLY glad I did not level (monk) I will check after I eat but I’m just glad I got something refunded after this mess

lmao just asking because I actually spent time gearing the character I boosted ( a Resto druid) mythic progress and all…

I’m bout to see if I can get on that too though lol

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Over 20K views on this topic… Assuming those are “unique”… Hey Blizz CS/QC!!! 20,000 x $50 for Shadowlands and 20,000 x $15/mo is no small chunk of change. We are waiting, but not much longer… 2 weeks is long enough, or rather too long. Yes, I know we are on /ignore, but just saying…

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Hey again all,

We just synced again with the devs and wanted to let you know that we’re still working on this - emphasis on actively working. While I can’t share exact specifics as to what has been done thus far, I can at least give you all a bit of a peek behind the curtain, as we feel you deserve that right now. Hopefully this post at least gives you a bit of insight as to what’s been going on over the past couple weeks. Before I get too deep into it - I wanted to clarify something.

This investigation is for players with Intel graphics cards. Some of the players posting in this thread have other graphics chips, and your crashes may not be related to what we are investigating at all. If you are using a Mac with a Nvidia or AMD graphics card, we recommend that you try troubleshooting the crash instead of waiting on updates, as there are several things that cause crashes other than this specific bug. Since the bug has been tracked down to happening with Intel machines, what we do to fix this is unlikely to have any impact on crashes for anybody who uses a different GPU. I’ve updated the thread title to clarify this.

With that out of the way, let’s talk some about where we were earlier this month, and where we are now. When we got the initial report of this bug, we had our Quality Assurance folks look into it, and they helped us find some scenarios where the crashes happened. That was what we tried to fix with the hotfix we mentioned above. Unfortunately, the problem was deeper than what we initially had identified. On behalf of all of us at Blizzard I wanted to apologize that we set kind of a bad expectation earlier in the thread. We thought we fixed the problem, we were wrong, and so we went back to the drawing board.

Without going into the complete technical details, we’ve spent more time reproducing things with Quality Assurance, found more problems, and tried more code tweaks to fix the things we’ve found since the initial hotfix attempts. None of our tweaks, however, have been successful enough (as indicated by the thread) which is why we aren’t out here telling you to re test things right now. If we had more good news to share, we would, but the best we can really tell you is that we have people actively trying to unravel this complicated thread. We’re aware that this is not the experience you expect of the game or deserve, and I promise that once we have something more meaningful to share, we’ll let you know ASAP.

In the mean time, I again thank all of you for continuing to report issues as you see them. They’re extremely invaluable when we have our QA team try to reproduce situations and help us narrow down what the common denominator might be. For those of you who do still want to report issues as you come across them, this information tends to be the most helpful in case we need to look in extra areas to make sure we have a fix.

Where were you in game when the crash happened?: 
What were you doing when the crash happened?: 
What error message did you get (if any)?: 
What character/class you were playing when it happened?: 
Was there any other notable behavior before the lockup occurred or anything you want to add?:

For the rest, we understand if you’d prefer to just lurk. As I mentioned earlier, we’ll keep you posted on this as we can, but even if we aren’t posting, we’re keeping an eye on the thread and forwarding any information of note.

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I was just going ot say this.

First, if you’re experiencing any issues on Windows, switching your API from DX12 to DX11 may increase stability at the cost of increased computer resources. This is the nature of DX12 vs DX11. By design, DX12 removes a lot of overhead but is harder to implement. This is why a lot of AAA games that just released still use DX11. With each patch, WoW’s DX12 stability has gotten worse. For a short time it was great. Changing to DX11 will increase input lag as well. Full screen borderless DX11 games are passed through the DWM. DX12 is not. It is rendered independently of DWM. On lower end pcs, this may not be what you want to do. You could actually decrease your game performance and make your computer work harder. Laptops beware. With this information you can make a better informed decision.

I have a hackintosh. macOS on unofficial, traditional PC hardware. It’s a 6600K with an RX580 using SMBIOS 17,1. I used to play WoW on this install but given how I game more than anything, I just continued to game on Windows where the rest of them are. I do not experience any of these issues people have commented they are having. There is no alternative to the Metal Graphics API within WoW. DX is a Windows exclusive. WoW did offer OpenGL but was removed a few patches ago after Apple declared it depreciated. Vulkan is the only other API that will work on Mac, but WoW does not have it implemented. It’s similar to DX12, being a low level API. Out of curiosity, I used a ACPI patch temporarily disable the RX580 and connected to the HD530. Crashes started happening within minutes. It is a memory leak. The VRAM for the IGPU was consumed rather quickly. And leaving nothing else for the OS to use, the system crashed.

I’d like to start off by saying thank you blizzard for giving us an explanation as to what you have been doing and i’d like to answer your questions. When the freezing and crashing first started i was doing the light puzzle scenario during the cloak questline. I have also been experiencing freezing and crashing when doing dailies in uldum and vale, and even in the ny’alotha raid and bfa dungeons. I also experience it when in a large group like when fighting a rare or fighting the world boss. I never got an error message and I play a Havoc Demon Hunter. The only thing that would happen before I got the rainbow circle popping up on my screen before is lots of lag sometimes I would stop lagging and i would find myself dead, almost dead, or somewhere else. other times I would see the rainbow circle go away but id still be frozen forcing me to reset my computer completely, this would mostly happen when in the ny’alotha raid. I also notice a lot of lag when a lot of flashy animations are happening like projectiles being thrown at you and a circle on the ground indicating where the projectile would land. I think that about covers all my issues.

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but blizz is saying no compensation, so if no compensation. refund pls because there’s still no eta and its about to be feb. this isn’t a beta game lol this a game u pay for so ima need my money ran back fr cus what did I pay for at this point… ill just pay up whenever this gets fixed.
anyways thank u drakuloth for an update <3

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Thanks for the update, Drakuloth.

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