I might be naïve to the purpose of crafting orders, but I feel like some professions are just left in the dust with the system compared to others. Armor crafting professions have an actual use for them, but stuff like alchemy and enchanting cannot craft the best items in that profession using the system? Weapon enchants that cost 50k to make or potions and phials that could be highly specific have to be spammed on the auction house for a chance at making a profit.
I don’t see any downsides to allowing stuff like armor enchants or alchemy creations being allowed to be craft ordered, so if you need something specific you can just rip an order and get it made quick or actually have some way to ensure you don’t go broke making things if those are your chosen professions. Just seems like an odd decision to me unless I am completely missing some sort of reasoning for not allowing stuff like that to be craft ordered.
Wondering if anyone else in a similar situation feels that way or if i’m just weird.
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I think the idea of crafting orders has been a long requested feature of WoW, but the convoluted nature of this expansions professions has turned it into a lame duck feature.
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i think years from now when the content is long forgotten, people will want to order specific appearances but nobody will want to order a flask from 4 expansions ago.
i think what we truly wanted was EVE’s “buy orders”… see? ‘buy’ tab and ‘sell’ tab.
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you are weird because crafting orders is a lousy system - you are much better off being able to sell on the AH.
I don’t think I have been able to find a public crafting order I can do yet and the guild puts up orders without all the mats and gives 500 commission which doesn’t cover 25% of the cost of the missing mats. I am not sure if they think after grinding rep for weeks I should also PAY to make the items for others or they just think I have all the rare mats on hand.
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The idea is great.
The execution is not.
You should be able to place orders in the Auction House. You should be able to fulfill them from any AH.
The major problem(s) with the system is that they’ve tried changing too many things at once. The new profession system isn’t terrible, but it needs to be refined. Crafting orders is something that could be extended to any kind of request. Yes, it becomes a buyer’s market, but it reduces the risk of wasted postings.
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People are reading way too much into work orders.
Blizzard wants to make crafting relevant for high-end content. They tried it with crafted legendaries in Shadowlands, but of course people complained.
The ENTIRE PURPOSE of the crafting order system is for M+/Raid players to take their Bind-on-Pickup materials they got from doing content, and have it crafted into gear for them without them having to have the profession themselves.
It’s Blizzard’s answer to the puzzle: How do we drop bind-on-pickup crafting mats for people and still have them useful even if they don’t have the profession?
That’s it.
That’s why crafting orders exist. Most of it will be personal work orders or within-guild (that’s why there’s a Guild option for them).
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You are correct.
Meanwhile, I’ve long said BoP crafting mats need to die in a fire. At least this system makes them usable (since I never seemed to have the profession I need in the past) but they’re still really annoying. I now have to carry around mats for professions I don’t even have… whoopie. 
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(Also, the firestorm of rage when many crafters realize they cannot create high-ilvl gear for themselves without doing harder dungeons & raids, or maxxing out renown, is going to be breathtaking.)
then why force everyone to do orders every week to progress
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Def made use of that. I don’t have much to use primal essence or the Titan Matrix with on this toon so being able to get a couple BoP cloth pieces from them was pretty cool.
part of the reason you aren’t seeing many orders up right now, is because the system is designed around BOP items.
most people aren’t going to bother with a m0 training matrix order (or if they do, they probably know someone and are doing it through a private order) when they will be replaced within weeks anyways.
the gear people will be interested in, is the stuff that requires sparks, which we only have access to 1 of right now (with the second being available next week) and in some of those cases the recipes aren’t even available yet. and even the ones that -are- available, require 2 pieces for the set bonus.
the way things are right now, there just aren’t any crafters who can actually make the type of gear that people would be ordering through the system. since there just haven’t been enough crafting points available to both make the gear, and add the optional components, and make it to a decent quality level.
and with no crafters able to even make them, most people aren’t going to continually repost orders that -can’t- be filled yet.
honestly, I don’t think you are going to see the system get much use outside of private/guild orders unless they did something extreme like ‘m+ only drops training matrixes and trinkets’ or something equally bad. because so long as there are dropped sources of gear that are equal to, or nearly equal to the crafted gear. then people won’t bother unless its a friend/guildy. and the odd person who does put up a public order, its going to get snapped up so fast that you will be lucky to see them. (once crafters are fully skilled up)
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As implemented crafting orders are just trash across the board. Only the most hardcore of 24/7 craft goblins willing to advertise endlessly in trade chat will ever get much from them right now. For everyone else they are a massive failure.
People may say wait for season one and all the extra mats to drop etc. The problem is that there is a 100-1 missmatch between demand and what crafters need to make the system good for them. Mats are still so gated that at best they will move demand from 100-1 to 50-1 mismatch.
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My point is that for alchemy all of the phials and potions people will actually use cannot be crafted in the crafting orders, and same with enchanting. The weapon enchants and armor enchants cannot be completed using the system either, so why even have the system in the first place for those professions? Either let us craft order anything in those professions or just don’t have them at all, i’ve literally seen 0 alchemy orders and the only enchanting ones are weapon illusions we can’t even have yet. Just seems like a garbage system
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Correct, crafting orders were created as a BoP system.
Probably because people would feel left out, and complain, if they were excluded.
There are also the BoP crafting tools and accessories for those professions - although my guess is that they were added as an afterthought, just to give ‘something’ for those professions to get.
But you’re right, crafting orders should be only for professions that directly produce BoP gear, since that’s the crux of the entire system.
Part of the problem there too is that for some unholy reason alchemist’s crafted gear is behind the renown grind unlike basically every other one which is unlocked with profession knowledge points. Not that there are many orders going out for anything but the pvp ones atm, I assume as more people pick up on the loot for it or get their first lockout of raid gear more orders will go out.
The dev team really seems to want people to stop using potions and flasks.
I do understand that is the crux of the system, but I personally feel like every crafting profession should have a guaranteed money making option through the order system, other than just gear pieces. I see no reason that stuff like weapon enchants or top tier flasks shouldnt be in a crafting order system. Instead of having to play Russian roulette with the AH
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Doesn’t really seem that way if you look through the list, 1/3rd of all of the armor and weapons you can have crafted are BoE (unless you add certain reagents to up the ilvl).
All of the containers you can have crafted are BoE.
Tons of gems are not bound when crafted.
Spell thread, scopes and armor kits are not bound. No real reason why these kinds of enchants should be in the system and not others.
Soul Cages
Several trade goods
Green profession gear
Some random toys…
The system could easily add a lot more options and clearly isn’t limited to BoP items.
They also need to let people set minimum quality for public orders and stop trying to herd people into Classic-WoW style forced “socialization.”
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Then why make a daily where you need to do orders ??