Crafting orders failure and Blizzard's response

With the complete break down of the public order system such that it even elicited an official response from blizz:

It seems to me that the public order system would greatly benefit from just these 3 changes:

  1. Allow us to only provide partial or even zero mats (like the private order system does).
  2. Allow us to set minimum quality levels.
  3. Provide random computer generated low-level orders that people still leveling their crafting can use.
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  1. Allow to put Crafter’s mark (I, II, III and IV) into the upgrade slot as a crafter to be able to sell stuff at 376-382 for rerolls.
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Would still require providing soulbound reagents.

This singular change would save public crafting orders.

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As far as the public order system goes, it seems to be working well as an easy way to get something crafted for yourself if you aren’t worried about getting the best quality and want it quickly. This was always its intent.

This is from the Blue post, and it’s a false presumption. People - of course - want the best quality possible, and are unwilling to trust their expensive materials to the WoW RNG. Thus, Public Crafting Orders are dead.

If you have to level up an alt to create Crafting Orders, or go begging on the Veldrakken street corner for business, or waste time hanging out at the work bench hoping an order comes along (instead of playing the game), then something fundamental has broken in this plan, and maybe they should rethink their assumptions.

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This would help a ton with public orders. It still does not fix people trying to complete quests or level up professions.

Perhaps there needs to be some randomly generated low level orders to allow those at the lower end of their craft to use to level up. All I know is, I’ll just re-quote myself:

There are lots of crafting systems in lots of games that work wonderfully.

FF14 is probably the best, though I know that title gets a lot of hate here.
New World is also pretty good, from what I’ve heard.
The point is, that there are lots of successes out there, and after Blizzard almost certainly analyzed and played through them we got what we have here: Dragonflight Crafting…

I don’t think that many people, aside from the tiny percent who are full on bajillionaires from ultrarare patterns or triple specializing in one meta piece of gear from day 1 are having a good time.

I would have much rather they just blatantly copy paste something that works than create this mess.

Having fun with dragonflight as long as I avoid the M+ community, and really enjoying the world experience. Crafting and toxicity really are the only two sore spots.

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For weeks I check the Tailor and Enchanting tables for public orders, and the most I have ever seen at any given time is 3-4 epic ones that only a very select few would be able to craft.

Otherwise its simply empty.

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I wish I could do justice to the crafting system that existed in SWG. Some can argue that it was incredibly overly complex, but what was produced was a truly diverse player economy with things like “server best.”

Want to talk about an actual epic weapon? Let’s talk about a T-21 rifle that was crafted and could out DPS any other gun on the server. Power imbalance? Maybe, but it added value to Crafters, Crafting, Harvesting, and working to produce a quality product.

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If anything, I could see this making it worse for people trying to level up. Everyone will always request the highest quality which would likely prevent people that do not have max level skill from participating.

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I would just make it so you can hit 100 with what you get from your trainer. Then it’s just the grind to get points into the various specializations.

As for the quests to fill crafting orders. It seems to work fine with an alt or a friend to place a few cheap orders for ya. That is a bit annoying but it’s a social game so not a terrible quest.

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Public orders are intended as a measure of last resort.

They should probably just remove public orders, to stop the complaining.

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I’ve had the “craft 3 orders” tailoring quest since week one and I’ve not filled one order lol

A couple guildie have made an order, for bags that I’d need renown 22 for and mats I can’t even get by myself.

I haven’t filled orders at all and it’s the first time I’m not maxed level on my professions.

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That stupid quest was literally impossible for me to complete until I finished leveling a 2nd toon into DF that I could use as a mule to send me the requisite number of private orders to basically cheat completion. And I know for a fact I’m not the only one doing it. I’d wager the vast majority of players are probably doing the exact same thing. Which is a damning indictment of that quest.

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The “do x crafting orders” quest should be removed, no question.

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i agree but they think spamming /2 in search of a crafter/recrafter is a good social aspect lol

they dont know it only makes me hate my life and the only thing im thinking about is getting my item and forgetting about the crafter asap :wink:

not to mention half the time the crafters are confused & inexperienced.
there will often be issues.
“can you re-place it with 1 less rank requirement? x% chances to get the next rank!”
“oh it has an embellishment i cant do that yet sorry”
etc.

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Quick question on work orders: Can we send ourselves work orders from alts?

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In an ideal world you’d be right. But the entire time I’ve played DF, the only people I see posting in trade on my server are people offering Lariats and making huge bank cause the RNG gods smiled on them early in the expac. Everyone else seems to be screwed.

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Absolutely you can.

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From wowhead’s Dragonflight Launch Meme collection:

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