Crafting Bans!?!?

Friend of mine got banned for the tailoring bug, I think 14 days is way too steep, especially for holiday season, start of season one, and for something the dev team should have known about for a long time now. In shadowlands there were bots farming herbs and ore everyday I would report and they never got banned. You would see multibox Druid bots all the time.

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This brings me back to a bug report I made last week. Even gathering is not safe. When I gather I get repeated bonus first time craft exp every single hardened node. In exchange I do not / have not received bonus exp for any other node type. This has been consistently happening since last week.

Reference: Possibly Not Reproducible, Unexpected Experience Gains for Mining and Herbalism

I’m fairly certain it’s not intended but it would feel incredibly unfair to expect me to stop gathering on a suspicion of a bug. How many other people have what I’m experiencing? If this was occurring on a large scale but people kept quiet would they deserve to get banned? are they exploiters now? My argument is and has always been there is almost no way for most people to have determined without outside help that this was an exploit. But even if they knew it was bugged in this case where if blizz knew and did not fix or freeze it is not right to punish people for gaming.

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Good?

Even if it was a mistake, Blizzard really needs to get over the rep it has of exploit hard and often when it comes up.

The only way to do that is keep on suspending players for abusing bugs. Even if it is unfair.

Fixed.

Exploit early and often! You won’t get banned!

This made me chuckle a bit

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Maybe, but it’s also not unreasonable for people to think “oh cool, I guess Blizzard removed the daily CD.” We haven’t had cloth with a CD since like…MoP, it’s not something people are super used to.

Without patch notes? Yes, that’s unreasonable. Anytime crafting changes of a major variety including CD’s have been changed, there have been patch notes.

I stil l dont even know what the bans are for or what people where doing…can someone explain? sense its fixed now and no one can do it anymore what where they even doing?

I don’t think it’s fair to punish players for not double checking everything against patch notes. Players shouldn’t be responsible for these subjective “does this thing I encountered through completely normal gameplay seem off or too good’” calculations.

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There was a specific tailoring pattern for higher end crafting. It had a CD, much like JC does for certain patterns. However, sometimes (randomly) the CD would disappear when going through a loading screen. There was no rhyme or reason to it, and was obviously a bug.

ahh ok i havent done much im mining and eng and my eng is stuck at 50 bc im not doing work orders busy focusing on rep

A cooldown randomly disappearing through a loading screen is obviously a bug.

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Oh, in that case it seems possible for Blizzard to target people who were doing /reload followed by crafting on repeat, showing they’re intentionally triggering a bug. Maybe that’s what they’re trying to do. I still think there are likely people who crafted a few throughout the day not realizing it had been reset by a loading screen.

And they are doing this. Someone right up there earlier in the day got a message from Blizzard outright apologizing for the inconvenience, reviewing their case, and determined with them it was obviously an accident and not something done intentionally.

Which is great. I’m not raging at Blizzard or anything, I’m just sympathetic because I can see how people could easily get caught in the crossfire.

I disagree with the idea that a player’s first thought when they go to their prof menu and don’t see a CD must be “well I better check the patch notes before touching it” - and if Bizzard is reversing bans of people who just did that a few times, they also disagree.

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Gonna stop you right here. Id bet about 95% of all crafters look at the things they’re trying to craft and go “Oh crap i have enough material to make 2 or 3 of these, ok then!” And then get banned for it which is INSANELY unreasonable.

Im not defending people who actually and intentionally exploit. Im talking about someone who may wanted to give crafting a go around, had enough material to make multiple items, made said items and then got slapped with a ban for essentially playing the game.

Except that’s not what happened. Again.

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You have no say in what happened or didnt happen. Again most crafters, myself as well if I bothered to do it at all, would simply go “i have enough magerial to make 2 or 3 or 4” and then press “craft all.” You dont seem to understand what the term “ban wave” means. Whether it was from my example or legitimately someone trying to exploit the system they both got hit and were both looked at in the same regard

And you don’t seem to understand that when you make something which has a CD, just like in JC, the second you make it, there’s a red line of text which shows up and says “On CD until…”. ← There is zero way to avoid the fact that the people who exploited this saw it. Went through a loading screen. Saw that there was no longer a CD. And suddenly did it again. And repeated the process.

The people who got caught in the crossfire innocently are already being unbanned and WoWhead and people in this thread have already shown proof Blizzard is unbanning people who are innocent. The only people who are still banned are the people who explicitly and outright exploited.

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