Crafted Items should NOT be BIS

But if your ilvl is lower because it’s better DPS, for a raid parse you just parsed better for your ilvl.

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yea…no one looks at ilvl parse

i know lots of people who do. i don’t know anyone other than you who checks ilvl from details (i didn’t know this was even a thing)

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So you’re saying seeing a large number for ilvl next to the damage parse gives you a feeling of enjoyment? Not the damage number itself?

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Yep! because you’re right at that level the damage is insignificant largely between those. So therefore, by making crated items not BIS, it allows you to still do higher damage. They should just make non-crafted do the most output, period.

It’s a thing depending on the addon’s mood. It is not at all uncommon for it to just declare someone has 0 ilvl in a raid/dungeon

i think what he’s ultimately getting at is that higher ilvl should always mean higher dps, which just isn’t possible the way the game works – that’s not an issue with crafted gear.

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Why not? :dracthyr_shrug:

Why are you pretending like 2 items are going to alter a players overall ilvl in any meaningful way?

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why isn’t it possible? because of secondary stats.

edit: oh you probably meant the OP :slight_smile:

When craft was weak people complained about it.
When craft is strong people complain about it.

One way or the other I will simply drop stuff from dungeons/raid

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Would you like to wear a badge that you ran a half marathon instead of a full marathon? But hey, you still get a badge and they are both tough to do,…but at the end of the day, it’s not a full marathon. Half marathons should not hold more merit than a full.

What in the world of false equivalence is this? Maybe focus on answering the actual question.

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i didn’t say that. Crafted items should be VERY STRONG…but it should not be the best.

whoa, this sentence made me take parse and really think about it.

Okay. Why? Would you care to explain at all?

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It just doesn’t make sense that you can all this work to get gear, and then only to be swapped out because you can just craft it. I equate higher item level to more damage. The game is flawed if it’s not.

It would also make crafting largely pointless (again).

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Personally, best fun for me is simply killing stuff and for loot to drop. None of those external systems or great vault.

You made an argument stating that the reason crafted shouldn’t be the best is because it prevents players who are going after ilvl to be unable to because they need to wear crafted gear.

I stated that wearing 2 crafted pieces at 3 ilvls below max will not impact their overall ilvl in a meaningful way.

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