As an enchanter.
It takes literally 25 skill to do crests.
The patterns are personal drop and I got them all in one LfR
Don’t be tipping them a lot.
And you don’t need r3 mats for enchanted crest either.
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Where exactly does it require a science degree? Because the system lets you see the items that increase the power level of your gear, and see what you need to make those.
It’s a non-starter, because that completely undoes the entire crafting system and skills. No, if you want to use a crafted piece, make it yourself or do a work order.
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we wanted crafting to be meaningful. we asked for this.
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True. Never thought we’d get good profession systems but I am very grateful for these upgrades in DF and again in TWW.
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specially since enchanting mats are tailoring mats too.
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Yep, a cautionary tale of “Careful What You Wish For: Warcraft Edition”
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This true. I swear it wasn’t me!
Though I recall the base materials for SL legendaries were a pretty penny back in the day too.
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in SL we said “not like that”. That’s how we got here.
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How is it cautionary? We had worthless professions from Vanilla to BfA, then the Shadowlands legendaries which were a massive gold sink to be able to craft anything remotely worthwhile, and now we have a system with meaningful progression that is genuinely enjoyable, doesn’t require you to dump actual millions making worthless lower-rank legendary frames just to unlock the good recipe, and works in tandem with the rest of the gear mechanics instead of being a completely unrelated single item that you would make and upgrade without interacting with any of the other content.
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The crafting system is confusing for as long as you don’t try to understand it.
It’s like Excel. Seems confusing, but if you just play with it for awhile it starts to make total sense
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I find it less confusing and more tedious compared to the original system.
Back Then:
Get all the mats on the shopping List
Stand and make it all
Use Profession for the rest of the expansion
Now:
- Learn a handful of items
- Pilfer through needed items to find more recipes
- Gather more items to either craft with or pilfer
- If Gathering, get as high as you can then wait for world drops to learn more
- Once you have crafted all Tier 1, then work on Tier 2
- Try to reserve focus for upgrades
- Once Tier 2 is done, move to Tier 3
- Once Tier 3 is done, move to Tier 4
- Once Tier 4 is done, most to Tier 5
- You better hope you are gathering your own mats or you just spent hundreds of thousands of gold
- Then if you still do not have all recipes, use WoWHead to find the rest
- Get the rest
- Now repeat leveling T1 - T5
- Are you still missing recipes, they are probably locked to a Mythic Dungeon Boss
- Now that you have it all at Tier 5, enjoy crafting to finally make money and upgrade stuff for everyone else who was not stupid enough to take crafting and do it for a 50 gold tip.
Yeah… not confusing… time consuming. Probably the ONLY thing I actually dislike about TWW.
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I think it’s neat. It’s the first time since maybe wrath that I’ve actually been engaged with professions.
I like needing other professions along the way. Previously, we’d have maybe one or two professions that did everything worthwhile and the others just got to twiddle their thumbs.
Engineer had been asking for years to get more than goggles and a mount. Now they can make tools for other professions. Some professions now get to make finishing reagents for others, which gives them a purpose they probably didn’t have before.
I won’t say the system is perfect though. I’m not a huge fan of needing to spam trade chat. I’d like to see how we order and purchase things expanded on.
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If you don’t like the current crafting system, you can pretend it’s the olden days where crafting is so worthless everyone ignores it.
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I don’t want to be engaged with a profession, I want to make my own stuff with minimal effort and investment. That’s why I’m an alchemist.
That still can’t two star stuff without concentration, three star mats, despite being fully specced for it and having blue r5 equipment.
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It makes people buy more wow tokens, so it’s a win for blizzard 
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Personally I just put it on the public order form at 4k log off and it’s made in the morning.
That’s why tokens are worth pocket change.
Are you trying to reach the top 1%? Reach m+15 in the first week? Mythic raiding?
If the answer is no to all of them you don’t need to craft anything. Just raid or runs m+ and you are good.
No one is forcing you to craft.
Or just take the time to learn the skill and craft for yourself.
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Fun Fact.
If you craft your items with all teir 1 materials, then recraft them, you need only half the materials to re-craft them, and you get to keep all the things like Enchanted Crests and Embellishments.
It’s how I made my 619 sword on my paladin. Made it basic, then recrafted it with only half the nessessary 3 star materials. It was significantly easier to do it that way.
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Make friends with an Omnicrafter. Ezpz.
's how I get all my business. I’m the sole driving force on a dead server.
lmao.