Correct Way to Say Y'Shaarj

[Segovia-spinebreaker]

@Xiaoxia-wyrmrest-accord

“Yah-Sha-raj”… Bellular should be ashamed of himself and his butchering of Y’Shaarj’s name. It’s Yuh-SHAARjuh. Like charge but with an S.

This is how I get it.

As others have mentioned, it’s a Lovecraftian name. The Y’ that people are having trouble with - and don’t see how others are arriving at a “yuh” sound - is treated like a schwa. As in Yə-

[Fläshock-tichondrius]

Pronounce like this

Yuh charge
But with slight change
Yuh sharje

[Kromkosh-thrall (Kromkosh)]

Brother are you mentally okay? They invented the fictional word, you cannot tell them that they are pronouncing it wrong.

[Pthurion-dark-iron]

The old god knife literally says “yah-sha-ra-sh”

The game has directly told us more than once how to pronounce it.

[Pthurion-dark-iron]

@Ayuri-destromath

@Kromkosh-thrall

“Yuh-sarge” isn’t even approaching correct. It is canonically pronounced “YAH-sha-rahj”.

As it was put elsewhere:

@Segovia-spinebreaker

It’s pretty laughable that anyone would say “b-b-b-but this is the canon way to say it”, considering who is responsible for what is canon in this game

All we get from these “canonical” posts is that the writers themselves can’t pronounce the names they come up with.

You probably didn’t figure this out yet, but all languages, and words therewithin, are made up, the rules change on the drop of a hat, and when it comes to NAMES of all things, they are pronounced however the creator damn well pleases.

[Ayuri-destromath]

@Pthurion-dark-iron

You probably didn’t figure this out yet, but all languages, and words therewithin, are made up, the rules change on the drop of a hat

This perspective is pretty potato.

Potato is a word I just made up that is pronounced exactly like the word “stupid”, and not the other two pronunciations of the seemingly-but-totally-not-related word “potato”.

But I guess relativism is the modern go-to on the internet, so yeah, you go ahead and stick with whatever silly pronunciations you need to, mang. We can all just make up whatever we want and insist nothing is ever correct, anywhere, ever.

[Ghaghzull-malganis]

While you figure out how to to say Y’Shaarj, I am trying to figure out his appearance.

[Pthurion-dark-iron]

@Ayuri-destromath

@Pthurion-dark-iron

You probably didn’t figure this out yet, but all languages, and words therewithin, are made up, the rules change on the drop of a hat

This perspective is pretty potato.

Potato is a word I just made up that is pronounced exactly like the word “stupid”, and not the other two pronunciations of the seemingly-but-totally-not-related word “potato”.

But I guess relativism is the modern go-to on the internet, so yeah, you go ahead and stick with whatever silly pronunciations you need to, mang. We can all just make up whatever we want and insist nothing is ever correct, anywhere, ever.

You’re acting like this is some sort of gotcha when there are countless examples of this happening in reality.

“This is so sus/cringe/epic/mid…” etc, along with your own example, “mang”.

You’ve shown you actually understand and agree with my point by making an example of it yourself, thank you.

Language changes and evolves based on the culture and generation, often in surprisingly short periods of time. Language is not some sacred set of rules to adhere to when communicating, just a guideline.

[Magnarok-amanthul (Magnarok)]

They say it out loud many times in the game.

[Pyri-shadowsong]

@Pthurion-dark-iron

Of course how their names are spelled and pronounced clash with our preconceived notions based on our own understanding.

All languages are made up and the rules change with the wind.

but they don’t write their own language with the English alphabet, right? so the romanization we choose to use to write it should at least try to obey our phonetic rules.

same reason we don’t romanize 北京 as “Boughjoggs”

[Pthurion-dark-iron]

It is entirely within reason to see the correlation of “yah-sha-ra-sh” from Y’shaarj.

[Númenórean-proudmoore]

“Yah-Sharr-jh” is how I’ve always said it

I’ve heard “yuh-shar-ah-jee” too, but I don’t quite get that one.

[Segovia-spinebreaker]

@Pthurion-dark-iron

Language changes and evolves based on the culture and generation, often in surprisingly short periods of time. Language is not some sacred set of rules to adhere to when communicating, just a guideline.

Y’shaarj is written in the Roman alphabet in an English-language game. English has established phonemes. How the name should be pronounced is not entirely ambiguous. In cases like the weird “Y’” sound, we can fall back to Lovecraft, since it’s clearly where it was stolen. It’s not whatever you want it to be because language is fluid. I think that’s what was meant by calling this relativism.

Only real problem I see is that the nerds who thought of the name don’t even understand that themselves.

[Lunaferre-moon-guard]

it’s funny you pointed this out because i don’t think i’ve ever said it outloud and when i read it or think of him, i just see him in my head. i have never tried to pronounce it, even in my head. but since I am here… i think i would say Yish-ahraj lol

[Narod-duskwood]

I think the klaxxi pronounce it eee-sir-ahj. Or something along those lines

[Pyri-shadowsong]

@Pthurion-dark-iron

correlation of “yah-sha-ra-sh” from Y’shaarj

i guess the only part that really bothers me is “rj” having a vowel sound inserted for no reason. if you want it pronounced that way, just write “raj”?

[Soulebreaker-hyjal]

Yas arrrrrrrrrrr j

[Disstress-destromath]

I say it like “Y’Shaarj”, but I have also heard it pronounced like “Y’Shaarj”.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

@Pyri-shadowsong

but they don’t write their own language with the English alphabet, right? so the romanization we choose to use to write it should at least try to obey our phonetic rules.

That would follow reason, but that’s not the Lovecraftian way.

[Treesto-zuljin]

why do you think yah-sah-raj has two r pronunciations in it?