Coronavirus: Are Our Scientists Lying To Us?

The answer seems to be yes.

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You’re a moron

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I didn’t watch the video but some scientists likely do have a political agenda. The ones that do are the kind that believe because they are ‘scientists’ (or call themselves that) everything they say or do is correct and essentially sacrosanct. And they will do literally anything (lie, cheat, slander, collude) to protect this belief rather than practice actual science.

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Not wrong, but this claim is also levied whenever people don’t like what a scientist says, even if said scientific claim is rooted in reason and apparent in physical reality.

Examples:

  • Scientists saying, rightfully, that it’s way too soon to re-open most stores.
  • Scientists saying, rightfully, that gender is a spectrum.
  • Scientists saying, rightfully, that we have very little time to curb destructive global warming.

And so on ad infinitum.

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Hard to tell when people making false number too
(~https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/coronavirus-tanzania-test-kits-suspicion-goat-pawpaw-positive-a9501291.html)

I don’t think the scientists are lying to the people. I do think that if people can find a way to create a conspiracy theory, they will do so though.

I think that I have heard it all when it comes to this crazy issue.

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Scientists are alarmists who tend to err on the side of caution. This is not a bad thing, in a time like this.

So scientists say, “Hey, doing this stuff could be bad for the ozone layer so we should not do it.” So it makes sense to not really do that stuff, since we can find ways to do other things that don’t do that. Nothing may come of it anyway, nor may it help to keep us from coming climate changes, but it can’t really hurt.

So scientists say wear a mask, gloves and a face shield even. It can’t really HURT. I honestly don’t think it does much, or EVERY SINGLE PERSON would not get it at an entire nursing home or retirement community, when the caregivers are already in gloves and masks but it still gets spread.

Staying at home alone helps, but we younger people (I’m 53) have to go to work in order to pay for goods and services. I can’t stock the lumber and drywall from home, with some kind of elaborate drone forklift. I do work overnight, mostly by myself, so that helps.

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a few new discoveries about covid 19 aka the woohan flu.
no it doesnt sit on a surface for over 24 hours
 more like 1 hr max.
no that dust mask your wearing isnt helping
 unless its an anti microbial mask or a cartridge mask with the anti microbial filters its useless. the virus is flying between the mesh like its not even there
 and yes its still traveling just as far when you sneeze
 your just preventing the phlem from traveling.
the cartridges btw only last 4 hrs then are way to clogged to be effective
covid still has not matched the record death toll for the common flu in one year
we hads a higher death toll year in the 80s
 no it is not worse than the flu deaths. people dont die from the flu or covid 19 or any covid illness
 they die from complicationns caused by this type of virus
 generally pneumonia
 and yes it scars your lungs just like the flu. ( wear a respirator daily for my job and have to be fit tested and mask trained. yes i am a competant source for information.)
as for the politics
 easily believed and seen. just look at which political party went full panic mode
 martial law was not enacted so yes your full constitutional rights are still in effect
 so no they can not unlawfully search or detain you without a lawfull reason( an edict has no legal weight in a court of law and yes the supreme court did pass a judgement in the mid 90s stating the right to travel between states is an emplied constitutional right


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You all do realize science is a concept created by humans a species subject to flaws and imperfections and you think that we are capable of measuring, another concept we conceived, things 100% accurately. That none of it is subject to political agendas and biases.

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I don’t trust Fauci or the WHO.

You dont trust yourself even.

After seeing Governors ignored their guidelines and Dr. Fauci lying about the effectiveness of masks and the percent of the population that needs to be vaccinated. Lot of people are sick and tired of the lockdowns and being lied to. They are fighting back and they are getting violent.

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  • Scientists saying, rightfully, that it’s way too soon to re-open most stores.

But, muh mask?

  • Scientists saying, rightfully, that gender is a spectrum.

Appeasement

  • Scientists saying, rightfully, that we have very little time to curb destructive global warming.

Again?

I can’t see it, therefore it can’t hurt me or doesnt exist /sarcasm
Lets also ignore studies from the CDC, US National Library of Medicine, and USDH about the effectiveness of masks at reducing respiratory transmission pre-covid (pre-2018).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5705692/

Gender identity =/= a person sex or physical anatomy.

This never changed, people never took it seriously in the first place because what it asks is monumental in terms of change.

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Wondering what Litia thinks today


Great! Let’s re-open the world back up and force mask mandates. As it is now, we have mask mandates, but nothing is open. If it’s “15 days to slow the spread” then mask accomplish this all the time, right? So, why are we still shut down?

Gender identity =/= a person sex or physical anatomy.

Appeasement

This never changed, people never took it seriously in the first place because what it asks is monumental in terms of change.

The world ended 50 years ago due to climate change, this is all just a fever dream. Well, at least according to scientist it did.

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Masks reduce transmissivity - not eliminate it.
My area has a mask mandate, and we’re somewhat open. We’re ticking along at a steady infection rate, open up more and that number will explode.

Why does that matter? Keeping the rate low eases strain on the medical system. Cool, but it also doesnt protect people who will die from pneumonia/coagulation clots/random organ failure that the virus can cause.

I’ve already lost someone I raided with to it, I’d rather not lose more when its preventable.

Remember when we thought people who were homosexual could be cured?
Same level of ignorance.

No it didnt. IIPC AR5 has held that a 2 degree net global temperature increase would be a theoretical “tipping point” where we’d struggle to return to our pre-carbon injection levels. The long term concern is that we shrink the % of arable land for food and screw up rain cycles that lead to droughts and flooding.

News has been spinning a story that we’re suddenly going to die, the actual message from the scientific community is different if you actually read any of the reports they put out.

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The words He and She are labels
 Male and Female Fashion was almost indistinguishable in Ancient Antiquity and the Iron Age!

Fashion is a Spectrum. Level of satisfaction with one’s Body Type is also a Spectrum(in my case the only thing I’m displeased with is the fact that my Body produces Waste at all)!

It’s really cool reading this thread. I’ve seen news reports and interviews about people who are really ignorant to the situation, yet even as they’re about to be put into ICU still deny it’s a thing. I sorta doubted anyone could be that stupid, but here we are.

So glad I live in a covid free country, because we, you know, used science.

I hope people there wake up, but I fear they won’t. I saw that morgues are using freezing shipping containers now for bodies because they are running out of room.

Just please, follow the medical advice, debate it later.

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Rona is the new religion.