How do you even counter this combo right out the gate? What blizzard dev thought this was good gameplay? It kills you before you can even get to the druid and do enough to stop it…
Edit: I’m referring to fastidious resolve. the free “zomg lulz convokezerz no stoP” from stealth…
This is where walls, immunities, mobility, etc, come in handy.
Feral with immune convoke on you in opener? Trinket port. Maybe pact, then trinket port.
Boom, stupid kitty in shambles.
I should have corrected and said Boomy with convoke and resolve. I couldn’t even GET TO HIM! He had me insta dead through ALL defensives…
Play magic ward or port to los. It’s cheese for sure but like young Kennie said gotta use big defensives to live it instead of interrupts unless ur teammates are on point and can dump insta cc with you.
Okay so I still wasn’t clear on what I was playing. I died on my warrior vs a boomy with conoke+resolve instealth. That’s one trinket that should NEVER go beyond this patch.
Yeah its very toxic and shouldnt exist/ On War you should just pop dbts/reflect/rally all at same time then leap to los. if you can’t leap to los then try to kick/bolt/fear to stop it. But yes its really dumb.
Incap roar, typhoon, beam.
Done. Took me half a global in response time to get off and stop.
So to quote your suggestion, you’re saying that I as a warrior CAN ONLY run with ANOTHER druid so as to counter the trinket/convoke combo from stealth? That’s just not right really.
Yea pretty much. I actually died in about 3 to four seconds. The boomy hit so freaking hard with his convoke… I just sat like “wtf?!”
No but you can play with classes who can perform similar functions as a druid can to do such a thing. WW, DK, Rogue, etc…
The other option is a simple one;
use CDs.
Yeah if you ever see a boomy on the other team always assume they are convoketards trying to cheese you until proven otherwise and sit by los ready to pop every defensive to live. Tbh tho kyrian boomy with 4 set can pop off almost as hard.
Oh, on the immune convoke you just press everything and leap line. Or have your healer press a big save button that’ll immune you or ground it. Reflect can get multiple spells sometimes but not the most reliable as moonfire knocks it off.
Vs immune convoke feralit’s just trinket parry then have your healer use a minute later for next, non-immune convoke.
Thank you for the constructive advice! I actually looked at my log and I was in combat for one second! His only spell cast is all it took through my defensives. How do these devs still have a job?
I tried man. The moment I felt his first moonfire hit me I was dead on the ground. I popped CDs and died leaping away.
i just trinket and use what i have to right away. he wont have trinket for 3 minutes and if i survive opener, the chances of him dying are pretty high.
Yeah all that dam actually comes in 2 sec total with their cov legendary so you gotta be fast. Not sure what all defensives are on the global for war, but it could be handy to make a macro that uses trinket/dbts/rally/reflect/whatever all together. Really not ideal usually for high level play where you will get punished for so much overlapping, but vs some stuff like RMP where a rogue spams cheap trying to re-stun ur trinket immediately or skirms/times where you can’t rely on good partners it can be nice to just live that first go safely cuz games will prob not last past 60 seconds anyway.
as a Warlock you have plenty of options to survive, you have multiple defensives use them…
or just port behind a pillar, you need good reaction times.
Typhoon doesn’t count as a cc for that trinket I don’t think. It definitely doesn’t for echoing.
To the OP, you likely just reacted slowly to be honest. I agree that both of those trinkets are beyond dumb. I agree with you and wish they’d leave the game. But chances are this was on an open map and you were just randomly in the middle and had surges in the air before anything even got pressed. You’re looking at the death log starting from when you first took a big hit. It’s a 3s channel with most spells of significance happening at the end. 1 min convoke usually only fires 2 surges, 3 at best. Even if they crit they’re only 25-30k under the best conditions. A properly used dbts alone would likely save you, esp with rally.
Now again, this is super cheesy but just take is as a lesson learned. Be near a pillar next time until you’re aware of his covenant and just leap los. That’s the most effective. If he’s on top of you, kick/stun/fear or any combination.
Your partner also I’m sure could have done a plethora of things. I promise eventually you’ll see those trinkets and be thankful for the free win.
You’re best bet is to use nether ward and dark pact when he convokes.