Continuation of New Customisation Options for: Void Elves, Blood Elves, & misc high elves

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@Lannisterian-tichondrius

Assuming Blood Elves don’t receive a second visual theme and decent customization, I think it is important to set the precedent these customizations aren’t anything more than RP tools for the Wayfarers, which doesn’t entitle them to the entire theme which would be any non Void hair in this regard, and would serve to act as a stop sign to any future things Blood Elves get that High Elf fans are going to say “we want that too” for.

And it would be completely fair to want any future developments for Blood Elves to be more exclusive as any sort of light, fel or undead developments aren’t really applicable to Void Elves or High Elves.

Developing a second theme ie natural assets without the use of any Horde/Blood Elf assets would be perfectly fair for both sides.

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

I’m going to have to be blunt too when I tell you you’re being extremely disingenuous.

You may think I am because you disagree with me, I just don’t think anyone’s opinion should be drowned out.

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

Blood Elf players aren’t lording over Night Elf players, and Worgen, Goblins or any other race your selective word usage of the word “players” makes it seem like some great tragedy and in truth it is Blood Elf players protecting their theme, and in this regard it is specifically about Void Elves and Void Elf fans seeking to take on this second theme in its entirety

And aside for any pining over Blood Elf/Horde assets, those wanting more natural assets for Void Elves should be treated in the same fashion as players of other races as anything otherwise borders on discrimination.

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

Void Elves and Void Elf fans seeking to take on this second theme in its entirety, equal to that of their main theme which is also unfair to Void Elf players who like the Void theme.

While I definitely do support the development of Void based assets as well and would like to see more of these options, that theme is pretty well rounded out, and even one or two natural hair colors isn’t going to break the bank on this.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/concept-voidier-void-elves/565242

These images were made by a lovely player from my server who made a great thread on improving on the Void aesthetic which I completely support before any natural options and I’d be over the moon if this is all we got. I still support people asking for what they’d like added though.

You can also see many other High Elf supporters graciously supporting this idea in the thread as well.

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

So perhaps it is you who should take account of what you’re lording over other players as you tell Blood Elf players what they can and can’t use their voices for, which in this instance apparently means a lot of “ignore the fact we’re stealing thanks”.

Stealing from whom???

We’ve already established this is isn’t Blood Elves as far as any desired assets aside from skin go.

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

Blizzard has shown that they can’t do both at the same time, and Blood Elves are the core race that Void Elves are infringing upon, and I’m not going to advocate for HE fans who have shown they will take every last inch if you let them when Blood Elves are as lackluster as they are, because in your world it seems we could end up still receiving nothing and the HE community would end up stripping Blood Elves bare, with their AR now having two complete visual themes.

And I wholly support Blood Elves and other core races being finished off first, and Void Elves receiving any new assets when they make the pass for ARs.

I also don’t condone the wholesale copy and paste of Blood Elf hair assets, which is the only scenario where Blood Elves are stripped bare of their aesthetic.

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

It’s not and again selective usage of words to paint the opposition in a certain light.

This is kinda the way it starts to read as while there are some players with valid feelings of resentment, there are other players on both sides that are all but elated at the chance to bully others if the other Void Elf threads are any indicator, which is why I won’t even bother getting into it with them.

@Kirela-arygos

Would that be the full on fel BE that followed Kael? I’m not very savvy sorry. It would be cool to add OG BE themes instead of wiping them. I never thought of that. Sadly, it seems like Blizz has wanted to erase what a BE is essentially 5 minutes after they were introduced.

Primarily they could come from the Sunfury, who were known to have Felbloods amongst their ranks and the Sunfury themselves rejoined Quel’thalas some time after the Sunwell and there wasn’t much said aside from that. This would be the perfect chance to make them a more unique group amongst the Blood Elves and introduce a new visual theme for Blood Elves ie the Felbloods.

@Kirela-arygos

Then as soon as they were introduced they started to chip away at what made them even remotely fit the Horde in the first place. Now, they have that “well, back in the day I had teeth, but now I am pretty boring” theme going on today. A pretty face and nothing else in my opinion. That’s how I view BE as of today personally.

And this is why I’ve always loved the Felblood idea as this would definitely bring back the edge Blood Elves had that had all but evaporated after the BC and was indeed why I found them more interesting and gave them more commonality with the Horde.

Having Felbloods would also help reclaim and rival the whole tampering with dangerous energies theme that Void Elves have kinda ran off with. They’d be similar concepts but visually different as well as their poison of choice.

@Thormus-hakkar

I think that’s the funny part about about it. You’re “entitled” if you request reasonable customizations for the High Elf aesthetic but NOT if you try to shut down those reasonable requests because you’re disgruntled that your favorite races didn’t get what you wanted.

That’s not to say Blood Elves and others shouldnt get more. I’m all on board for things like San’Layn/Dark Rangers. Whether that’s as a Blood Elf aesthetic or a Forsaken aesthetic i’d like to see them. But that’s doesn’t mean Pro Helfers are “entitled” for requesting for what they want. Everyone should request what they want for their favorite race(s).

I wholeheartedly agree. Like I stated above, feeling resentful of the current situation and trying to protect assets of your playable race is valid as far as I’m concerned, but it also doesn’t make sense to be crossing over into unrelated proposals with this issue.

@Deemspring-proudmoore

Depends upon the way in which someone asks. If someone says “we deserve this” or “there’s no logical reason against this” or “what we got is worse than nothing, Blizzard has to give us hair” (all of which I’ve seen posted before), then that seems pretty entitled.

This is fair, and I’ve seen members of pretty much every other racial playerbase ask for these in this fashion, including Blood Elf players. People just need to remain more thoughtful in their requests in general, regardless of what they’re asking for.