Premades beating pugs does not mean the map is fine.
Iām sure everyone here will believe you because you āsay soā.
Iām going to stick with my anecdotal evidence and Ionās word.
You do you boo boo
Where is the evidence that friends on discord are āpremades?ā
Also, a premade stategy could be done by pugs. All because people in pugs donāt do that, does not mean the map is causing their loss. They are. Ion is a moron.
Iām sure thatās what most people here think about youā¦
If Ion said the election was stolen, would you believe him?
Sadly, I think you would.
Ion had nothing to do with that, now youāre just really talking stupid.
No Iām making a point.
Ion isnāt right all because he is in charge and designed WoW.
Shigeru was wrong about the minus world, by his own admission too. The recent disruption in win loss rates means Ion was wrong. If the map was rigged, it wouldnāt matter if people were on discord or not. The Alliance would never win.
āPremadeā counter argument is not enough to prove AV is still rigged.
Pre-mades should never be considered in determining map balance. As a pug should typically lose.
So I guess Apes premade who was like 200-0 in WSG clearly showed how favored the alliance side of the WSG map was imbalanced right?
Your anecdotal evidence is meaningless, Iām going to go as far as saying any evidence with you is irrelevant as itās all dismissed because Iām arguing with a child who doesnāt accept anything but their own opinion.
My evidence is solid. You just donāt like having someone disagree with you with a valid argument.
Ion needs to rethink his opinion based on the current events. Alliance would not be able to āretail AVā if there was something wrong with the map that favored them.
It proves the opposite actually. Even the OP is saying AV is different now- but it is the same map we all played last year this time.
Your evidence is stupid and you should feel bad trying to pawn it off as evidence.
The map favors horde in the sense thier cave is superior to the Alliance cave in where it takes effect.
Thereās literally an 8,000 post thread about it. Also started by a horde player with like 1,000 AV games.
The thing that has changed from last year and now is that we are once again able to premade, and pre-mades beat pugsā¦SHOCKER!!
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I think itās fine you disagree with me and I donāt think that makes you a troll.
We just have to agree to disagree. No problem.
So horde are better at AV because somebody offered you a wand while you were leveling and you didnāt accept it.
Right gotcha, cant refute logic like that 
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Congrats Horde!! now that youāre getting smashed in PvP and were already outclassed in PvE, youāve officially become the meme race.
Man, Horde was the premiere pvp faction and was all boastful. Come back to classic, brag about phase 2 with all the scrub rerollers and now get thrashed in AV and cry when you get competition. My faction is embarrassing.
Come TBC with all the carebear rerollers and whiners switching to Horde for BE, Alliance is going to be the minor power faction lighting up Horde in BGs. Alli gonna be gangsta.
Wallstreet is rigged homie, yet some reddit scrubs took it to hedgefund masters and made bank while those rich guys cried like Horde do when they lose an AV. Trying to play it off like their loss means the game aināt rigged.
It donāt take a genius to figure out that every game is rigged and yet players win all the time. So alliance taking some Wās is to be expected when you know how the game works.
It shows that Horde are more community based than Alliance players.
āHard coreā gamers tend to choose the Horde more. These players understand WoW is a community based game where other players successes is also their success. The Alliance thinks other players loss is their win. Meaning other players within their faction. Big difference in approach to the game.
I also refused because I wanted to start fresh, which I clearly wrote and you purposefully distorted.
If horde is so much more organized where is their pre-mades?
If anything in my anecdotal experience Alliance have always been way more organized. In every aspect of wow.
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To unironically believe this would imply you have an IQ less than a McDonaldās Sweet Tea.
I donāt know if there are or there are not Horde premades happening on Discord. Blizzard doesnāt have any power or knowledge over activities & chats on Discord. I donāt know the Discord privacy policy, but I imagine if someone called them up & asked how many Horde premade groups they got going on, they would probably tell that someone that itās none of their business.
There is no way to know for sure the extent of the groups happening on Discord. Only the people running the groups know.
Edit: I play a alliance character, so I donāt ādislikeā alliance. I am
not denigrating my own faction in a mocking manner. I just think when you have hardline gamers versus laid back alliance, you get a different disposition in overall trends of how players behave.
Second edit: I liked your post because I am happy you have very good experiences on the Alliance side.
Itās cool we enjoyed hearing you whine for the last 10 months as you have been repeatedly ignored and roflstomped on repeat lol.
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