The fact that you are fine with this gameplay is YOUR personal assessment.
Your inability to accept that others are not fine with this gameplay is a much deeper issue.
Iām confusedā¦
It a script in Vanilla allowed you to mouseover a target and heal itā¦
And the macro used in modern WoW does the same thingā¦
Does it matter if itās not the same string of letters used to accomplish it?
The fact BLIZZARD is fine with it, is a fact that disputes your opinion. I never stated mine, I said that Blizzard Approvesā¢.
Not really, but nice try. Lets focus on moving away from fallacies and back to the discussion.
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Nope. But people would like you to believe that.
Same argument applies to focus as mouseover but thatās a battle weāre still fighting.
I used Clique to do exactly that just weeks after the addon was created back in Vanilla. I was using Clique during the TBC beta when it was adapted to the new āretail APIā after the secure frames/functions were added. I think I know how it works and what the differences are.
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At this point theyāre just ignoring reality and choosing to believe their own misconceptions regarding what addons like Clique and Luna do.
Apparently keybinding+mouseover is the same as LazyHeal nowadays.
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I think heās just fine with you objecting to the gameplay it enables.
What he, others, any myself are objecting to is how you are portraying mouseover macros. Both in regards to what they do, and what they could do in Vanilla.
That youāre wanting to espouse #nochanges while simultaneously going āYes, this was possible in Vanilla, but Iād donāt like so #changethispleaseā is bizarre and also offensive.
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Does it though? mouseover works in bothā¦ focus doesnāt.
It doesnāt. But Shridevi<The Prime Meridian> Seems to think it does.
Fesz is in the same camp regarding /focus for that matter. Only in his case Blizzard did disable /focus in the beta, while @mouseover works fine.
Focus worked the same way in Vanilla as mouseover did. The only difference was the method of changing the value.
Hereās a detailed outline:
Whether or not youāre fine with it, the functionality described here existed in 1.12.
And therefore it will exist in Classic.
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My only concern with mouse over macros would be combo point usersā¦ My rogue doesnāt yet have the ability on beta (as Iām splitting my testing time leveling 3 toons simultaneously and the rogue is only 26) but Iāve heard reports that itās possible to utilize mouse over to be able to blind a target without dropping cp on your main target. Iād imagine this same loop hole would also work with other advanced targeting functions like target of target, or focus (had focus not already been intentionally disabled).
Such functionality, if itās true, would be a pretty substantial buff/change to rogues particularly, but also ferals in a non authentic way. Iām not sure itās worth losing mouse over entirely for, however, and perhaps specific coding solutions might be needed for those two classes (again, if the reports where true, my rogue is close , but not quite high enough to test /confirm those reports personally, just yet)
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Several of the more abusive addons DO still exist in Retail to this day, they just cannot do many of the things they were doing in Vanilla. Decursive was actually broken during Vanillaās run as I recall. Although I may be wrong, once Blizzard made it clear it wasnāt desired gameplay, and finding an acceptable alternative, I stopped using Decursive and switch over to using mouseovers instead.
As far as I remember in Vanilla, I could do this in the way you describe. I didnāt play my Rogue as much though so I could be mistaken. I definitely remember having mouseover macros on my rogue, with the Pick Pocket one being most prevalent in my mind.
I agree, that would be a huge change, hopefully Blizzard can address that issue by other means, as Iām guess there is a back-end thing going on there which is enabling that to happen. Likely a deliberate mechanic change made at some later point in retail that the Devs havenāt yet made it around to tracking down and working out a way to address (successfully) just yet.
To the best of my knowledge, this was already possible in Vanilla using macros/addons, it was just less widely known/available.
Well until/unless Blizzard decides to enlighten us, I guess we wonāt know for sure. Although it never getting fixed would tend to be an indicator of its own.
I would say the argument is subjective.
Certainly does make for easier healing though.
Peopleās opinions of it donāt actually matter to the argument of whether it should be there or not (which is the topic). They can have opinions on how much they like it all they want though.
It was in Vanilla and should be in Classic.
Wasnāt the OP asking if the mouseover macros used in retail would work in classic ? And the answer was yes.