Concept for a new class: Void Knight

Thanks for the input. Honestly the main reason i chose mail is because i KIND OF got the idea while watching a random darksouls video. Artorias the abysswalker vibes.

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Happy to give input. I love talking about new class ideas - it’s the DnD homebrewer in me, I think

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Same. Malkarus is my favorite DH. We’d make good nerd partners.

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Aww, thanks <3

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I would love this! Why shouldn’t shadow also have its own martial order of knights?

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And the idea had zero to do with Paladins becoming Void Knights.

If you’d ignore the example and just focus on the fact that it’s a plate wearing Void user, you might not be so biased.

They could just be Warriors who learned to use the Void on their weapons. Or they could be something entirely new and separate, as are new classes.

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On a side note, i did say mail armor, but that is mostly irrelevant and just based off both the inspiration for me to post this (Artorias the Abysswalker) and my desire for another mail class in the game.

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Indeed you did. Apologies for that. I have a tendency to think old school when I think “Knight.” Hehe.

And I think one of the things that could make it unique would be the idea of wearing mail for a different approach to how they use their weapons and spells.

I think Shadow/Void spec for Paladin would be a better and more convenient option.

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I spent a few minutes thinking.

I like your spec idea for discipline a lot, but I feel like it could use a name update, what I thought of wasn’t very unique either though. Having too much insanity has it’s benefits but has more negatives, likewise with too much sanity. Your goal in most cases should be to find a balance, leaning more towards one than the other instead of perfectly in the middle, but there would be times where you want to go completely one way and take the extra negatives.

For shadow, I’d personally prefer a mostly melee spec with maybe a few casts, some quick and weak, others long and strong. Not quite a caster-melee hybrid, but it could focus on one and do a bit of the other. A name update aswell, I was figuring shadowblade or something similar, instead of just shadow.

I said a 2 spec class wouldn’t be a good idea, it’d limit down diversity, so my idea for a third spec would be a caster spec, with a few melee abilities, so it’s not quite hybrid of melee-caster again, but still can do a bit of the other, it just specializes in one. A cool name would be something like Riftwalker and it could focus on portals for utility and to buff it’s casts to do damage. You could reverse that though, have casts be utility and portals main damage.

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While that would be easier to implement, it does kind of clash with the essence of paladin. A lot of specs share aspects with each other, and paladin doesn’t really have the in-between spec like how priest does with disc.

It would also make Paladin less of the stereotypical ‘good guy.’

I agree with pretty much everything you say. The initial post was a mostly ‘write it down before i forget’ sort of thing.
I chose the names mostly because of how holy is shared between priest and paladin. For shadow , shadowblade is pretty decent. For Discipline, i think that name suits it pretty well. As for your ideas for the specs in general, i do like that. And finally, as for the 3rd spec, I agree with you, just couldnt think of much. I thought a pure caster spec could be fun, but i think it would be too samey with shadow priest.

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How many times do you wanna gloss over this fact?

If we want to get technical, Paladins are just priests who got plate and combat training.

Yeah I get that. Credit for doing it anyway though, I like nerding out on new classes.

Holy priest and paladin, protection warriors and paladins, restoration shamans and druids. I dislike specs sharing names for obvious reasons, but to Blizzard’s defense it’d take me a while of thinking to come up with something good.

I do agree, just note my afformentioned point.

Another class I want is necromancer (I acknowledge all the problems with its possible implementation) but I have that same problem with the third spec I could think of. Nothing much to make it unique.

And while Paladins are traditionally ‘holy’, they are basically religious warriors. There’s no real reason the source of said religion has to be the same to be considered a Paladin.

You didn’t read the example if you think he said “Paladins using Void.”

But keep focusing on that. Your bias is truly showing.

Yeah… they’d basically end up being the equivalent to what DH did to Warlocks.

Old demo

Never forget

I don’t want that to happen to unholy death knights. I can think of one totally unique spec, one that has stuff in common with UH but doesn’t steal, but the third would be a lot like demonology warlocks, just with a necromantic feel to it. I need to think of more things to make it unique.

If we try to make it similar but different to shadow priest, for a caster spec, maybe make it less about afflicting the mind, and more just blasting with unrestrained void energy. No DoTs, maybe a sort of delayed explosion spell, plenty of mind blasts, and maybe a melee ability incase the target gets too close

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This is what Void Elves should have been instead of a new race imo.

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