I think might is the better buff wouldn’t it?
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Here is my take on it from a Protection Paladin who can also heal during downtime. 9 times out of 10 the hunters dont manage their pets at all and never cast mend pet even once. If you’re not taking the time to even attempt to manage your pet then I won’t take my time or my groups time to keep it alive. THAT BEING SAID I have been known to throw a buff on the pets when I’m buffing everyone else and pop a heal on it during downtime if the hunter has been managing it well.
If you’re expecting the group to keep your personal DPS machine alive you’re playing hunter incorrectly. You can easily pop passive, pop mend pet, be down DPS slightly for a short time, then send it back in. Instead most hunters choose to leave it in fire until it dies, spend 70% of their mana bar to rez it, then complain about their pet dying all the time.
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So true OP!
I always buff pets. I’d heal them if I were a healer too, as long as you don’t leave your pet standing in s@!t at least…
Also so true! Especially those ravagers which I believe have an ability that taunts as a side effect… Very annoying as a tank.
Cptnxo’s pet Kaj did not receive any direct heals.
Eplioz’ pet Ravager was mended by Eplioz and did not receive any other direct heals.
Goocher’s pet HEALME was mended by Goocher and did not receive any other direct heals.
Impose’s pet Cleetus was mended by Impose and did not receive any other direct heals.
Longboardxo’s pet MonsterCrack did not receive any direct heals.
And the list goes on. They were getting mended by the hunter, or getting some circle of healing, LotP procs, etc. This log does not help your case lol.
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Taunt forces the target to swap. Growl doesn’t. See not hard to understand.
But they were getting healed. That’s in a raid environment where there is aoe healing hitting them, this can usually be enough. A large portion of this thread is directed toward heroics etc.
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PLMCcgHpKJYB9FGj#type=healing&fight=30&by=target Shade of Aran from the worlds fastest clear.
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Xn7H46rqNzLMjbmd#fight=4&type=healing&by=target Gruul 3rd fastest clear, mainly chain heals but also flash of light etc.
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PAV7CZqLfw8ka6Kp#fight=27&type=healing&by=target 6th fastest Gruul, renew, flash of light.
If passive healing keeps the pet up then yeah, they won’t get healed. If not the GOOD healers will chuck a quick heal on pets in the BEST guilds. Stop trying to justify crap skill and ignorant opinions that are just bad.
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TLB4A8pZ2YwMXqP7#fight=6&type=damage-done Maybe your other hunter would do more damage if his pet got a heal and didn’t die in the first 50s of the fight.
Would have helped here as well, although this hunter should have healed their pet
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YwvbmhBF8kAra6pL#fight=82&type=damage-done
Look how much better your old guild did when healing pets
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LfdgAnTPB9ckJrX7#fight=59&type=damage-done
That resulted in your best parse.
Should I keep going? Better players heal dps, regardless of if they are AI or players.
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Healers that refuse to heal pets are plain retail bad. They don’t understand that avoidance was buffed by 75% in 5.2 so pets take damage all the time just through normal no aggro fights. The UI doesn’t allow us to reposition pets like MoP. I can’t speak for Hunters but I know I personally micro manage the hell out of my pet and do doo doo damage without him to the point I will hard cast another summon mid fight if he dies and FD is on CD. That makes the fight last longer. You really want the Lock casting health funnel instead of shadow bolt? BM hunter pets are just as important to them and when their pet dies a lot they won’t fight anymore. Heal them.
You’d really like grouping with my healer main: I actually only heal pets, never players. I’ve stopped getting invites to dungeons on my server, but I do have a TON of hunter friends.
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yeah all I’m saying is that the original log you posted didn’t show any healers trying to heal pets
I love hunter pets. They give ferocious inspiration lol
This post comes across as very entitled. Learn to take care of your own pet sir.
Excellent pet control. I really like the 1min it took before you sent your pet in, great thinking, that should keep it alive. Yet unfortunately it didn’t, well I guess atleat you were quick to cast revive pet.
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kKctgQwYaZBbd7Mq#fight=7&source=35&type=damage-done&view=timeline&start=0&end=0
Your pet got 12.5k healing from a shammy and a priest and still died despite you also casting mend pet 3 times.
Maybe if I can get to your level of pet control, I might also be able to get a 63 parse.
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He’s trying to avoid the fact he got owned.
“Imagine nobody healing these pets in this log by these ELITE RAIDERS, they’re doing crazy damage.”
Uh, sir, nobody healed those pets.
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“Exhilaration” is not a spell that exists anywhere on TBC wowhead. In TBC, since you seem to be thinking of a different game, the pet loses 25% of its damage each rez and goes from 125% damage to 75% damage.
Mend Pet in TBC is not a “50% heal” - it’s a flat 2375 over 15 seconds that does not stack with itself and has no scaling - which is 1/4 to 1/3 of my pet’s health at best, but it’s pretty slow if the hits keep coming.
It seems that whatever you’re doing, you’re not playing a hunter in this version of the game and you can go ahead and head back to retail.
EDIT: And fyi, Hunters use mana in TBC. It’s not cheap to revive a pet and directly hurts hunter’s damage to run out of mana, but they cannot use their main damage cooldown, Beast Within, without a pet either. The pet is roughly 1/3 of a BM hunter’s dps, and needs to be alive. The pet also provides the 600 ArPen from Beast Lord in this phase.
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Really poor form to pick apart somebody’s parse when you’re not posting from a character with logs. Well, you have a couple logs from Naxx. Nice best parse on Gluth (4 percentile) and Maexxna (6%). Really elite raider stuff.
Now of course that’s not fair. I’m sure you died on those bosses, and you only entered Naxx twice (and never cleared it). But maybe be less smug about somebody’s 63% parse. Just saying.
I heal pets if I can but they are bottom on my priority list. You do have the ability to move your pets out of fire but I do get your dps tanks without Cabbager the Ravager active
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Pretty sure this is the main issue. There are many healers who sit with full mana doing next to nothing and just…they’re clueless there’s another target they could be healing. They could throw a renew on the pet and it’d be doing great.
When asked they think that this is classic BWL where the pet doesn’t do much, doesn’t scale, and gets roasted in five seconds by most bosses. OR they think this is retail with god-mode hunter self-pet heals. This is TBC, get with the program and throw some heals if you have time.
If your petframes are already on and you are just healing higher prio targets first, I doubt this topic has anything to do with you, but it may have something to do with your guildmates.
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Oh, and I saw some discussion earlier about parses or…something. Anyway, I wouldn’t put too much stock into super-parses and pet heals. Usually a pink parse is going to have such a fast killtime that healing anyone isn’t really needed because there’s so little time to take damage.
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I don’t heal players who stand in aoe, why would I waste time on a pet?
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Do you ever heal anyone who got hit by some falling rocks in Gruul just before they moved out? No? Glad you’re being consistent.
Then again you don’t have a HoT so maybe you only tank heal.
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The difference being I have heaps of 99 parses.
If you’re going to tell someone to learn to take care care of their pet, when you are terrible at pet control, you’re just opening yourself to getting critiqued and rightly so.
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