i am beyond ready for the casters on our tourneys to stop getting left way way behind by the pace of games in what seems like a personal obsession to stick every single bit of info into its own complete sentence. they miss so much of the action in fast-paced exchanges doing what honestly sounds like a parody of sportscenter postgame talk…but during games.
this isn’t even touching how much they overexplain things that should be intuitive and trample any chance to commentate things that might not be obvious.
kidney shot is 6 seconds by default. it does not need saying that someone sitting a kidney is in danger of being killed, or that someone who was making an offensive push is being hampered by being stunned. the commentary “x longstunned y” deserves is:
- when it’s not 5 combo points
- when it’s on diminishing returns
- when it’s used at any other outstandingly good or bad time, such that more gameplay is being enacted than just the above
these tournaments don’t need to be any more unwatchable, they’re already bfa gameplay. let’s pick up the pace, desk jockeys
TLDR: just say what happened. use your sentence fragments, stop casting like you’re trying to hit a word count
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Yea kinda weird I had to come to the forums to find out why Cdew died in kess than a minute, wasnt even sure if he was sitting in 70% darkness or stock darkness etc
Seems like until dampening kicks in they kinda just goof off with the commentary because nothing is worth talking about until then.
Unless it’s game 7 vs DK/Rogue then shut up and pay attention.
yeah as i say there’s layers to how bad it is. on one level, you’re exactly right, they just screw around waiting for dampening or mana. on another level, though, they can’t even do that right, because of how hard they’re all trying to beat each other to be the first to use 20 words where 4 would do
“wizkwill be caught up in that kidney shot, defusing their setup and allowing gorecki to stabilize his team from an otherwise threatening push” this is what tones are for. the way you say “snutz kidneys wizk” and the fact that you interrupt yourself having been saying “silence on gorecki”,which is all you need to say because wizk is the only spriest in the current match, when your voice was rising as you said the latter and then dropping when you say the former, goes all of the way towards explaining to the listener that the move began a go and c9 responded, while also explaining exactly how.
i’m big mad about how disgustingly dense the commentary is. it’s a horrible listening experience compounding an already horrible viewing experience. they’re trying to do sportscenter postgame in-depth crap DURING THE GAME while also trying, one has to assume, to make this horribly inaccessible, glaucomic game a digestible experience for viewers that aren’t hardened wow pvp vets, and just. neither of those goals is any good at all
I think a big issue with this is the very unnecessary moments where one of the commentators feels out of his own desire to branch on something for 25 seconds that’s happening in the game.
It’s almost like they compete with one another over who can spew the most unnecessary amount of information first.
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nothing dies until 30% damp at the earliest
so everything before that point is meaningless
when there is that random game thats very tense with a lot of back and forth the casting is very good imo because supa is insane
but u cant expext 8 minutes of nothing to be interesting. also, blizzard has directed them to talk to the lowest common denominator when explaining things during a match
not experienced players who want more nuanced/technically intricate commentary
that stuff is lost on 70% of the awc viewership
Tough crowd.
You try to entice ppl in watching this non-enhance garbage gameplay…
rip doomwinds 1 shot never forget
this isn’t a product of the game itself, though, this is tournament players executing defensive play functionally. it’s not meaningless, and it’s definitely not commonplace for ladder players. these teams playing in AWC to deep dampening would clean almost any ladder team before damp sets in-especially for the middle ground layman you describe, that does deserve note by the casters, just. better than they’re doing it currently.
ehhhhh
this effectively rebuts that IMO, they don’t do a good job even in short games at anything except expressing the bald fact that they the casters are excited by the events of the game. you can use your tone to relay a lot more info than that scant little, but they just…don’t.
i’m not checked in enough to have known that, but i’m sad if it’s true. they don’t even pitch that low on league of legends casting, which is one of the prime sources AWC is cribbing from
i don’t agree, i think it’s deceptively intuitive for the specific subgroup of: people who might suck themselves as players but have a lot of experience watching and/or playing wow pvp
though, that aside, this:
isn’t even helping noobs. it’s not enough information to help somebody who’s never watched a wow match catch up, but it is pointlessly dense enough to ruin the experience for someone primed to receive concise info
a trite example of this balancing act would be streamers that commentate their own games; pikaboo sometimes strikes a really good balance between the current play by play, the intent behind that play, and the expectations he has of the match’s immediate future
there was a dramatic shift in supa and vens casting about a year ago
i remember watching supas strum not long after that “different” broadcast they had been told by blizz half the people watching the tournies didn’t even know what a “dr” kidney was and to speak to the lowest common denominator to encourage more viewer inclusion.
its been 3rd grade level commentary ever since
that’s a massive bummer
i’d watch dilly’s stream if he wanted to give us commentary geared towards people who play the game
They need to talk to the audience as if they 100% understand what is going on. Not as if every single person is a noob. After a game is the time and place to break up the nuances and explain in more detail the play by plays, mistakes, capitalizations, and dangers players face in specific scenarios. This is a good point merph and would most likely make the tourneys more bearable and seem more fluid
this is exactly how i feel, but if trafficz is right then the casters’ hands are tied. i hope a commentator who doesn’t compete gets annoyed enough by it to start their own commentary so we have somewhere to watch without muting