Community council

No. That would be horrible. Then who ever was guild master of the largest guild would be picked as they would get voted in by their guild. Or a multiboxer could vote for themselves 50x

Umm…yeah…

Will be a great addition

Obviously he will not be his streamer persona and be more serious

Yes lets have the community vote with bots and bias towards people they like for x y reason even if it contributed nothing to anything but having a nice chat.

I don’t have anything against the CC personally, I just think the program is a bad idea.

Blizzard created a clique of people they determined have a more valuable opinion than anyone else on the forums. I think that’s tacky. Plus, you can’t call them the “Community Council” if we didn’t vote for them. A more proper name would be “Blizzard’s Chosen.”

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I haven’t seen anyone in the CC act like their opinion is more important than anyone else though?

I go out of my way to get feedback from the specific groups I’m making a post about to make sure that specific community’s voice is heard as well.

Is just sometimes they simply don’t respond. I asked for feedback and didn’t get any lol. Just that they liked my post.

And I didn’t say you or any of your companions thought that, now did I?

I said Blizzard determined your opinion is more valuable.

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I think the same, I think they are ornaments, mementos in the forum so Blizzard has to ignore the rest of the entire forum community especially if it has a better idea to improve the quality of the game.

And worse if they say something about the banned from that community just like the guy who talked to Asmongold.

But… They didn’t? They just want feedback consolidated in a single forum and choose people from a wide variety of playstyles they felt could adequately do that.

If they just let everyone post it’d just be people fighting for attention. Case in point when one class gets a buff blue post, every other class flocks to it and replies “but what about usssss”

Our opinions are no more valuable than anyone else’s.

You have your own forum that no one else can post in. You get a special colored text even if you don’t want it.

LOL so yeah keep telling yourself that.

p.s. There is already an existing program called "Most Valuable Poster" that apparently wasn’t good enough.

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I have noticed this a few times. I think that (1) if they communicated more about why they do what they do and what their balancing methods/goals are, it probably would happen less and (2) Some of the responses make me understand why they don’t discuss those things or any other things. I wish people were more pleasant to them, especially the CMs who probably aren’t making these decisions anyways. “Don’t shoot the messenger” and whatnot!

Honestly, I would like to know if the meta is the way it is intentionally or if the intention is to try their best to make it equal? I’d love some explanation on how they make balancing decisions, this is one of the only interview-type things I look for and I never get specific answers. Like do they do it in Excel? MATLAB? Rstudio? Do they run sims themselves + how do they use PTR data? Do they ever balance compositions, combinations of set-ups within compositions, and if so, how? Lots of questions. I guess they don’t want to reveal it because people might exploit whatever metrics they use to make their class OP. Which makes me think that they do use player data of some sort.

I do understand why people ask about their class, they want their favorite class to be good because it’s fun when you’re suddenly popular! And a little overwhelming. But overall great.

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I play every class. Unfortunately with how alts are in Shadowlands I had to choose 4. I popped in one 5th but ended up deciding I hate monk in Shadowlands. The 6th one I enjoy but I don’t want to finish the Necrolord campaign on her so it’s meh.

But I try my best (even before being on the cc), to comment on nerfs/buffs to ever class if they interested me.

Though the shaman nerf today just cemented ill never go back to the shaman forum. The fact I heard multiple people say “I don’t care about accessibility” made me physically sick.

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We have that in common. Both the valuing accessibility and the not going to the shaman forums because no way am I playing shaman again! I have one two (because I tried it again, oops!) at max, stink on ice at every spec, and generally do not understand the elemental-based gameplay.

I enjoy elemental but it feels like the devs don’t know what they want elemental to do.

One patch the spec feels balanced around icefury. Another patch it’s storm elemental, etc.

Resto I don’t hate but I hate targeting circles so… Healing rain lol. Same reason I can’t heal well with resto druid. Effloresence :dizzy_face:

Enhancement I liked in past xpacs but like ele, it feels like the devs just don’t know what to do with them.

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Course they did.

If they wanted a CC that would have proper debates they should’ve invited somebody from Twitch, on the grounds that they remain strictly anonymous. I know they mostly pocket views for popularity but not utilizing them as a feedback resource seems silly.

Me neither, I’m not a fan of drag and drop which is odd considering I play so many MM hunters. I have gotten into the 12 button mouse and @cursor macros, I would also recommend doing @player macros for spells like those and the ranged will get heals anyway. I always do @player for things like death and decay, DK kyrian ability (you only need to macro it in on havoc), and tar trap, great for getting melee away from me because they’ll follow me into it wherever I run after.

I’ve been hoping they’d add an @target condition. Just disable it if you’re flagged for pvp. There’s no reason not to let us do that anymore because we can just @player and move to melee range.

But limit certain skills from not working with it, like hunter traps.

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This is exactly what I asked for last year! I hope you get the ball rolling and win. Also @focus but specifically to drop the thing at the coordinates of your focused target.

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That program had absolutely no access to the Devs and was not for giving game feedback at all.

That program is for people who supposed to be overall helpful on the forums by answering questions/discussing things with other forum posters. Many you see are Tech/Customer Support MVPs who have spent years just making sure folks have the info they need. Same goes for some of the posters on the forums.

Forum MVPs can only talk to the CMs. That is it. They have nothing else and no other access.

I have been in 3 MVP programs since 2013, so I think I have a pretty decent idea of how that works by now :slight_smile:

I am not sure why you think that would result in a “proper debate”. Being argumentative for views and drama might bring in subs, but is not a great way to communicate. Any large Twitch streamer has had access to feedback mechanisms directly to Blizz for years. The point of the CC was to bring in a large cross section of different player styles. They wanted people who could communicate clearly about the things that interest them. So someone who is really into transmog art has as much value as someone who is really into pet battles or someone who is a world first raider. Different parts of the Blizzard team want that feedback and find it helpful.

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So there was no possible way for Blizz to say “ok you now have access to the Devs”? Interesting.

I really don’t care.

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