Community Council Forum Invites - Wyrmrest Accord

Well, I’ll tell ya the story of the wise man.

Man has a farm, right? Cows, chickens, and his prize horse. This workhorse helps him till the fields, keeps his livelihood intact. One day, the fence keeping the horse in breaks, it escapes. All the townsmen come to him saying “Oh, no, without your horse your farm will fail! How terrible!”

Wise man says, “We’ll see.”

Three days pass, horse comes back, this time with three other beautiful mares in tow. Now all the townsmen praise him, tell him “You’re so lucky, you’ll make a fortune off those mares.”

Wise man says, “We’ll see.”

Man’s son takes one of the untamed mares out in the morning, tries to ride her about the fields. Mare bucks him, he takes a hard fall, breaks his leg. Townsmen say again “What misfortune! How now can he help you in the fields when harvest is so soon?”

Wise man says, “We’ll see.”

A week later and draft comes through the town. Young boys get picked up and sent off to war, but the man’s son does not, on account of his injury. Once more the townsmen all flock in, saying “How fortunate your son is spared the horror of war!”

Wise man simply smiles. “We’ll see.”

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Like, I get it. I do have a concept of object permanence and the general progression of time. You don’t need to try to persuade me that things change over time.

But this isn’t metaphors or allegories or anything like that. It’s Blizzard. We can track the trends and evolutions of their gameplay design, communication and everything–it’s been going slowly downhill for a very, very long time and there’s been a complete denial that anything’s wrong for about as long as that.

At some point, “wait and see” is just a complete refusal to look at reality.

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Slow down, my friend. Simply wait out the tides as they come and go. No reason to be full of doom and gloom in the meantime!

No thanks. I’m bored of “wait and see” discussions. They always end the same way.

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Well, here’s a thought to tide you over. What can you do now to make things better?

Cannot agree enough.

I think ‘wait and see’ is a real reason why we are, where we are.

The only reason they have survived this long, is likely because they are a beast of a company with some major IP. If a smaller business conducted itself in and out of the game the way they have, it would have folded or been gobbled up in a merger.

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We can all be optimistic or pessimistic while respecting each other all the while. Nuance and opinion don’t need to divide us, but rather can show us different view points that we might not have considered, allowing us for more choice in our words and actions.

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if someones sitting in a tide, they should get out before they drown…

…specially with the waves blizz is making

Not to be rude, but can you maybe cut that out? I’m interested in discussing the story and condition of the game, not in entertaining more pedantic thought exercises.

All these “wait and see” and “well could you do better” rhetorics have been used for so long to stifle discussion and prevent any change from occurring, essentially acting as unwitting shields for Blizzard, insulating them from criticism. The few people who buy the “we’ll really get it right this time, guys” argument and then wield it against others are acting as one of Blizzard’s most effective tools: so long as people keep obstructing conversation with “wait and see,” Blizzard gets to pretend that nothing’s the matter.

It was tedious before. It’s damaging now.

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yea dont be like me

i thought theyd get sylvanas right

No need to be hostile my friend! But I can see you’re not too interested in a conversation, so I’ll leave you to what you do.

We’ve all been there. Legion was so good and they had already done a faction war storyline before, I thought they’d nail BfA.

But it’s not really scientifically possible to hold onto a wait and see attitude at this point.

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im sure we didnt mean to set the tree on fire.
look, her stance clearly shows surprise!
we probably just set something off accidentally

just wait and see, its fine

“Surely, these Brennadam leaks are wrong. There’s no way they’d write the Horde so stupid and evil.”

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its fine, just wait and see

i bet theyre at a military outpost and they got the jump on them and thats why noones wearing armor…

guys, just wait…its fine…youll see

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Is it wrong I actually would have preferred if Sylvanas knew about Wrathgate and she was actually literally just evil and working with the jailer this entire time… it would be so much better than this back and forth between kindergartners getting a turn with Barbie making her whatever they wanted for this patch or that patch

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You’re not wrong for preferring that.

So much of Blizzard’s writing feels empty and awful because no one is responsible for anything, so nothing ever really matters.

Sylvanas nukes the tree? Even if you don’t like that, it at least says something about her as a character. But then it turns out that rascal Zoopvoop is behind it all, so not only is she not responsible and you can’t punish her, whatever that might have said about her character doesn’t count. It meant nothing at all! Which means her entire narrative arc also meant nothing, because it was Zoogle that was doing it, not her!

Wasn’t that fun and not a waste of years??

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I’m gay so everything is a waste of years

Ehem.

Hello Raseri.

How have things been coming along?

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I thought of something this morning, that makes me wish it was done more like this. If there was maybe tags developed for the post itself. Like how when a post is flagged that it was made by a developer or gm, it’s blue. So colors assigned to the topic to make it easier to see what is is being talked about.

Seperate categories for:
PvP
PvE
Lore
Achievements
Role Play
Some sort of role dedicated to general player thought or feed back.

Or if the community form was broken up into an easily organized separate forums for these dedicated topics.

I only say this because there is a clear leaning toward an over abundance of PvP and Trinkets and all that jazz. Which, I still hold firm, that while the mechanics are important…all those numbers are nothing in a In a month, in a patch, in an expac or two. What remains is the world and it’s people, and that above all should have the most passion.

Love for raiding and pvp is great!! And there is something for everyone to enjoy, but the competitive nature of games (and I mean all games , this is not a Blizz problem), is killing passion of story and creativity.

So I just wish it was a little more organized, and I’m still so sad I was not chosen. I would of put so much effort into the topics of my posts. It really saddens me.

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