[Community Council] Botting, RMT, Dual Spec and More - Feedback Needed

Core function…aka the slippery slope that lead to the retail phenomenon where any and all sense of unique interactions and community was slowly stripped away. LFD is a crutch and leads to the homogenization and blandness you see in retail.

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LFD was in wotlk. I am looking forward to wotlk partly because of it. Don’t really care about whatever suppositions you’re making. I want wotlk as it was

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Actually the real problem is that 99.9% of forum posters can’t spell ‘dual’ and yet think blizzard should take their suggestions seriously.

Nothing ruins the game faster, than breaking down a server community.

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It was added in the same patch as ICC, hardly something that was there for the entire life cycle of Wrath.

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Sounds like wotlk to me, same way they added a lot of 2.3-2.4 changes to tbc classic from the start

Such as?

I can’t think of any reason to implement it from the start of Wrath, especially while levelling. The entire playerbase would go 70-80 in random dungeon finder.

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People have cheated in every game, including Overwatch where they ban you down to the hardware. A WoW token provides something other than transfers to be their cash cow to keep maintaining server functionality. WoW token removes some of the incentive to bot and sell gold, hiring people that can police 3rd party sellers takes care of the rest.

A lot of people forget that their sub hasn’t changed in 15 years, and money talks.

Retail players have no desire to actually play the game as intended, just let them be a faceless random.

Only the sub free has increased over the years.

2.3 exp changes
2.3 mount level changes
2.4 spirit mana regen mechanics
2.3 and 2.4 class balance changes
Expertise in from day 1

That’s just off the top of my head. I’m sure there are more

LFD is good for the game. You can think otherwise, I really don’t care lol. I just want blizz to see posts like mine so when they are working on wotlk they say “hey lfd seems super popular let’s add it in from the start”.

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You’re a pretty bad community rep if you’re that biased against a core mechanic of wotlk

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Group buffs like drums, chickens, jewelcrafting necks, shaman totems, and bloodlust are all very unique aspects of TBC that make it what is is. TBC as an expansion is made different from every other expansion by a number of factors, but one of the main ones from a gameplay perspective is group dynamics. TBC is the expansion where party wide buffs and group shuffling are the emergent gameplay loops that make up hardcore PVE. They are aspects that are unique to the TBC experience and what makes it its own expansion and not Vanilla or Wotlk or Retail.

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Pro token here.

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It’s weird. If you asked me a week ago what I thought on the token, I’d have probably told you “maybe, but probably not a good idea.” And the more I think about it, it very well might just be a necessary evil. The more people I ask, the more folks I see that say the same.
Really, action should have been taken far before now in regards to botting and GDKPs, but here we are. There’s a ton of fantasies and “what ifs” that would be really nice to see, but completely unrealistic, as much as it kills me. I think the token plus banning 3rd party RMT is the best middle ground I could think of if they otherwise refuse to take action.

Then you might as well expect a large drop of players and will see a big migration back to private servers. Pretty sad that the best option is the one that favors Blizzard the most instead of dealing with the problem.

This will completely flip the economy of Classic upside down. Flasks are now going to cost 1000g per, gear is going to go for unimaginable prices, and anyone who can’t spend IRL money on a WoW token will be completely screwed.

Absolute GG if they are implemented. Didn’t think this would be how it went but clearly Blizzard loves shooting themselves in the foot. Once again, Blizzard catering to the polar opposite crowd of children who can whine the loudest.

The implication of this being a good idea involves them also cracking down hard on botting and GDKPs. Maybe with the token money they can hire a few folks to monitor bots and such, eh? Wishful thinking, I know.

And I’m still talking about TBC, but you seem entirely preoccupied with Classic Era :man_shrugging:

Like you said, a lot of “What ifs”. Let’s not play dumb and assume once these magical tokens are in, Blizzard will take the necessary action to ban these gold buying and selling baboons.

Absolutely I am preoccupied with Classic Era. These sort of implementations slowly creep into other aspects and versions of WoW. First it was the Deluxe store mount and now talk of WoW tokens. It’s very concerning.