For those who said the community council feedback from blizzard employees was low because of: It’s newness, lack of meaningful topics, or it being the holiday season, etc…
What the reason now? I see one blue post from 3 days and ago and one more from 9 days ago. That’s bad feedback IMO.
I think the community members are bringing up good points that are promptly being ignored.
INB4: “the employees are short staffed or overworked”. It would take all of 30 seconds to reply something like “that’s a great point, we’ll discuss that and get back to you”. That would be better than what is happening now. We don’t even know if the topics are being read.
The Council is catching heat instead of the Devs right now, as intended. Nothing to see here, move along.
It feels lile the devs are just waiting for the Council to mention something they’re already working on so they can respond with “Yes! We agree! We’ll do that here it is! Look how effective this new Dev/forum relationship is!” When they PLANNED to do it all along.
It’s really sad how poorly done it is, even if it’s just a PR stunt. Upon further digging, it appear the vast majority of blue posts are approximately 25 days old or older.
This was the most blatant disrespect to the concept and playerbase. The guy who was actually saying things we were thinking and trying to make something of it all got promptly removed.
I feel like a lot of the CC members share the same concerns with GD in general…
But they never had any chance of getting anything done beyond the general GD forum user.
The information was already there on GD, they just had to acknowledge it…they didn’t. The same information is now available on the CC forum, they just have to acknowledge it…they haven’t.
At the end of the day, the diversion worked and everyone talked about the CC council instead of all the other problems for a week or 2.
Yeah it’s really turned out to be quite the disappointment hasn’t it?
Before the excuse for it’s deadness/low activity was “but it’s Christmas!” …which is fair enough. But that excuse just doesn’t work anymore, some 2 months later.
When the Community Council was first announced I thought we would be seeing daily posts/responses from Blues - you know, a real back-and-forth between players and the developers. Instead there’s a blue post maybe once every 2 weeks, and it’s on un-important/trivial topics that don’t really matter like that obscure TBC chicken toy almost no one cares about
Going to the CC forums is sad, devs can blame GenD being toxic for them not posting here but what reason do they have for not posting in CC forums. Those posters are hand picked to be there and they still are too afraid or maybe don’t care enough to post there. It really just showcases the lack of care or disdain they have for WoW’s communities.
Then I decided that I’m disinclined to work for free. It’s not like they’re going to give me a glowing letter of recommendation or verify my participation if I put that I did volunteer work for them on my scholarship applications or anything.
I agree. I think the council has made some great discussion points. That they are being given flax because Blizzard isn’t actively participating is really telling as to how toxic our community really is. I’m not surprised by Blizzard’s lack of participation but I am disappointed.
I think They shouldn’t have a quota of people in mind, more like a goal for how frequently new topics come up. They should keep increasing the number of CC participants slowly until the conversation is happening at the “desired pace”. There’s sorta a natural decline from any 1 member of the CC. Especially if the blues aren’t responding actively. It seems like the current members kinda came in and said what they wanted to say and then more or less peaced out.
im not surprised at how little devs engage. always thought it was a gimmick and dont even monitor it anymore
i mean just think about it, if you were a dev its like this isnt part of your job description so how do i get paid for this? and ofc everything probably needs to be approved too. aint nobody got time for that
Devs do have time. I doubt they work such a full day they can’t find 10 mins to free up. And, blizzard has more employees than just developers.
I want to be clear: I think this is a failure on blizzard, not the CC members.
Edit: also, the “it must be approved by legal” argument would work better if I didn’t see some of the employee’s social media. They are clearly off-the-cuff and have a decent amount of down time.
I don’t know about you but I’d rather have real answers instead of the kind of stuff I would say to customers on the phone who called my retail store as a teenager
Some people want that, personally the more I think about it the less I would want it lol. Every time a blue responds it ends up in my https://www.bluetracker.gg and I’d rather not have it filled with “I’ll run this by the devs”
I mean that’s why I’ve been saying for years that people demanding “more communication” are barking up the wrong tree.
People don’t want communication from the dev team, they just want the dev team to agree with them.
Or, to put it another way, people only want “more communication” if it’s something they want to hear.
If Blizzard went through and outright said “No.” to most of the things posted there, it would cause even more outrage.
And then people would move on to Stage Two of Internet Talk, which would be to demand “WHY? WE WANT TO KNOW WHY?”
And then Blizzard would EXPLAIN why, and people would start to ARGUE about it, because when somebody “asks a question” on the Internet these days, they have zero interest in actually getting an answer. They just want to argue about the answer.
