Whoa bud. You can’t come in here using logic that didn’t come from the reddit echo chamber of GDKP = P2W
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A reason I run GDKPs, my guild farms the hell out of a raid, i am BiS , I can do mindless farming of herbs to make money or be a carry in gdkp, keeping the current tier of content relevant to play (because i will get no loot due to having everything) and way less mind-numbing, plus can play the parse game if ya want, and make gold that way.
Now how likely are maxed out players who org or run gdkps as their form of in game farming going to stay around to mine or pick plants ? Not long.
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Not allowed to use logic here. My warrior’s only reason to raid is parsing or making money as a GDKP carry. She’s fun to play but she’s already full 99s
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Not sure how to respond to this but as someone that hates bots and people that cut corners instead of playing the game. I farm and no life to compete against robots that ruin the prices of stuff. It sucks but I still get around it and play the game. I mainly use the AH to sell materials from Ore/Herb. I also prefer a honor vendor or justice/valor badge system.
I mean AH is a place for trade and it’s not the standard players fault that it’s scuffed due to shady things in place to cause said issues.
It’s the same with GDKP, and despite what ignorant prejudice players say the vast majority of GDKP is legit players.
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the vast majority of GDKP is legit players.
and that is why the price of gold dipped dramatically when the ban was announced
agreeing with alliance is a hard pill to take, but the human is right
Naw the price dipped because of the next phase coming out that will introduce 5x thr amount of gold into the marketplace. Thus retailers discount prices in order to offload inventory. Pretty simple economics, price discount would have occurred regardless of GDKP.
But even with all that your whales are the main buyers just like any other game, and if you think whales are the vast majority of players then you are delusional.
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looks like gold is the about the same price as it was before the announcement of the gdkp bans. your comment didnt age well what so ever
what declination in value? its the same price
bots are still rampant… can you please share the concrete proof/evidence that you have that shows how many bots ran around before and how many are around now? thanks
more like a vocal minority as most players dont bother with forums and thats common knowledge
imagine a world where you ban RMT and enforce it. instead you rather ignore that solution and you ban one of the MANY reasons SOME people RMT in the game to obliterate a playstyle many innocent people play that dont need illicit gold to thrive while still not banning all the other reasons/outlets people RMT for aka BOES/BIS Greens/Consumes/Mounts/boosts/profession power leveling/and the entirety of the AH lmfao… given these facts, people like you and blizz dont actually care about RMT and infact you and blizzard endorses RMT by not going after any of that… rather this crusade is about one thing and one thing only GDKPS and nothing more
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blizz should permanban gold buyers and do a better job stopping botters, but they have proven to be unwilling to take that heavy a hand with buyers, and are unable or unwilling to adequately deal with the bot problem. These things are indeed problems that nobody is denying.
that does not mean blizz should ignore the large and obvious driver of RMT/botting that is the GDKP system.
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re read what you just wrote and take the time to understand how illogical it is
blizzard is unwilling to stop RMTs so they are going to ban a playstyle so that they can stop some RMT at the expense of many innocent players … eaither A ban RMT compeltly. if you are not going to do that and you are going to attack outlets/reasosn some people RMT for such as GDKP… then lets be consistent here and go the rest of the way and ban BoEs/ BiS Greens/Consumes/Mounts/boosts/profession power leveling/and the entirety of the AH… Pick one
i vote we do the easiest thing with the least amount of casualties to the innocent playerbase… ban RMT and enforce that… case solved the angry people can find their next target to try to blizzard to remove others enjoyment
I mean none of the people who have been crying that GDKP isnt the root problem are wrong, gold buyers are the root problem.
were it up to me blizz would be going after gold buyers with permabans instead of the GDKP orgs, but it isnt and banning GDKP’s will still remove a ton of demand for botted/rmt’d gold from the system.
ill take an (admittedly imperfect) solution that will still have a large effect on the problem over nothing.
ok then, lets simply push blizzard to ban RMT and stop fighting over the GDKPS… pretty simple.
thats a load of BS and disingenuous… the demand WILL still be there for the entire list of reasons i have already given… Pick one. ban RMT or ban BoEs/ BiS Greens/Consumes/Mounts/boosts/profession power leveling/and the entirety of the AH… be consistent
lets call it for what this really is, you people endorse RMT and simply want to get rid of GKPS and trying to prop yourself up on whatever you can to do it
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you can only use so many consumes, buy so many mounts and boost so many toons lol. gear is and has been the biggest driver for gold buying for ages
i dont think anyone’s buying 300k on vanilla to spend on mongoose elixirs, but i was personally in a run during vanilla where a gressil went for a gold cap.
and you can only buy so much gear before you are full BiS
go play back during classic when there were no GDKPs, bots and RMT was rampant because everyone was swiping for consumes paying thousands of gold for the week to chug down… DURING CLASSIC… the inflation was crazy
no one is buying 300k on GDKPS in SoD either… most gear go for approx 5g each. thats like 3 quests worth of gold.
regardless i still stand by what i said… pick one. ban RMT
or ban GDKP/BoEs/ BiS Greens/Consumes/Mounts/boosts/profession power leveling/and the entirety of the AH
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and you can only buy so much gear before you are full BiS
you maybe buy a few thousand gold per month for consumes if you are not farming anything at all (way less during actual classic, thats like era numbers)
meanwhile bis gear can go for over a gold cap
do you see how one might drive more gold buying than the other?
during classic people on mankrik were not spending thousands a month for consumes… but rather spending thousands a week on them
have you ever been in a SoD Gdkp run? because bis gear is going for about 5-20g MAX atm typically 5 g… thats FAR from gold cap… infact you can go to the AH and find BoEs and BiS greens far exceeding the price of anything that comes from a raid… and with that said… by these facts alone… your AH drives more gold buying than a gdkp does
so in order to curb RMT since you dont want to directly stamp it out… start by banning the AH first as it will have the biggest effect on cutting back RMT
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during classic people on mankrik were not spending thousands a month for consumes… but rather spending thousands a week on them
i doubt it was that much tbh, but im sure it was more than it should have been. i played on a midsize server so things never got too crazy on the AH, but i know before layers on some bigger servers it was in fact brutal for consumes
because bis gear is going for about 5-20g MAX atm typically 5 g… thats FAR from gold cap…
i was talking about era, also the only reason pots aren’t crazy right now is because all the gear will just be replaced quickly.
nothing you can get right now will even be prebis at 60 most likely, people know that so they arnet gonna blow the bank right now.
if GDKP had been in once things like DFT and MQG were available it would not have been the same story.
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