The topic was collateral damage, you didn’t address it at all you just shifted to talking about swipers.
could you be any more disingenuous, yes they mention social/guild interactions, but they also mentioned that RMT and GDKP undeniably “drive a lot of illicit activity”, I mean, are you going to argue that the people and company running the game, with the data at their finger tips are wrong? Their data is wrong or tainted somehow?
If they have some much data and tracking ability then why have they not used it previously to handle their gold buying problem?
would you prefer they went nuclear on players or looked for ways to curb the behaviour, disincentivize the activity that data likely points towards and wait it out to see the result, which is essentially all they have stated they are doing with this policy.
For all the moaning, it could be gone in ph3.
Yes, if they have had data tracking on gold buyers/sellers then absolutely go nuclear and purge them. Even now they are attacking a symptom and not the disease, which again is now punishing legitimate players.
Did it? I’m genuinely asking because I tried googling and can’t find any websites with charts
It did, at least during the times we were looking. GDKP’s are a topic of contention in our guild, and other places it seems lol. I looked for a chart online but I can’t find site that tracks it in trends. I’d be happy to provide more details on how/why certain members track it in DM’s or something but not comfortable making that public as I don’t want to get a forum ban lol
believe someone made a post with a chart that showed it dropped maybe 10% or something and was already recovering in the screenshot.
I would be interested in seeing this if you can find it, perhaps it will sway my opinion and I know it would be a topic of discussion for some of my guild members. From an economic stand point gold makers could just throttle the market to artificially inflate the price of gold. This would been seen in a lack of bots though.
This isn’t inflation, this is just supply and demand
Maybe I worded that poorly. I was pointing out that not everything went down in price as the expansion went on but, from a market standpoint, that should be expected. The “inflation” was the price of the raid consumes at the start of P1. This is true in all the Classic games due to RMT’s running rampant. Have you seen the price of raid consumes on Era servers lately?
Don’t disagree they could and should ban bots and sellers far quicker than they currently do, buyers should at least get a strike system or something at a minimum before going to things like 6month bans and account closures.
The topic was collateral damage,
If, as I believe, GDKP is responsible for the rampant bots that infest the SoD servers and the inflation that follows there is no collateral damage. In that case, those that participate in GDKP’s are responsible for this, either directly or indirectly, thus part of the problem not innocent bystanders.
Again, we will know definitively one way or the other in 4-5 months. If the trend continues then we were right and the P2W kiddos have been directly responsible for bots, gold inflation et al. If bots continue as they are now or increase and RMT also increase then I, and those that believe like I do, were wrong and should admit as much if the data proves it. I’m just wondering if the GDKP folks will do the same.
So basically you are saying that people rob banks, so if you keep money there you are enabling them to steal and thus should be punished.
While also saying that the correct course of action is to burn the bank down to decentize the robbers from stealing the money.
So basically you are saying
No, I’m saying:
If, as I believe, GDKP is responsible for the rampant bots that infest the SoD servers and the inflation that follows there is no collateral damage. In that case, those that participate in GDKP’s are responsible for this, either directly or indirectly, thus part of the problem not innocent bystanders.
Again, we will know definitively one way or the other in 4-5 months. If the trend continues then we were right and the P2W kiddos have been directly responsible for bots, gold inflation et al. If bots continue as they are now or increase and RMT also increase then I, and those that believe like I do, were wrong and should admit as much if the data proves it. I’m just wondering if the GDKP folks will do the same.
Don’t put words in my mouth. Attempting these types of juvenile word deflections are the petulance and hyperbolic nonsense that makes people discard your opinion.
Homie, check this out…
GDKPS are banned in SoD moving forward.
Move on.
Never put words in your mouth. I gave you a direct analogy showcasing what your logical thought is. You are now getting upset because you don’t like the conclusion your logic brings us to and deflect.
Never put words in your mouth
So basically you are saying that people rob banks, so if you keep money there you are enabling them to steal and thus should be punished.
While also saying that the correct course of action is to burn the bank down to decentize the robbers from stealing the money.
Never uttered any of that drivel.
I gave you a direct analog
You gave a juvenile attempt to frame my position. That is petulance at its worst.
You are now getting upset because you don’t like the conclusion your logic brings us to and deflect.
When you get my age childish antics don’t upset you, we’ve seen the tantrums and word games a thousand times. There is no collateral damage, no bombs went off, no banks were robbed. Time will tell. Now finish your juice box and take a nap you are getting cranky.
You act like a child and then call people children. What a class act you are.
What a class act you are.
Thanks, Enjoy your nap
Thanks, I hope you grow up.
You’re correct, it netted me 44 Gold.
I will never run one again unless my guild wasn’t raiding that week. I will always put raiding with my guild mates over gold.
But, after having ran a GDKP I can at least objectively compare GDKP to Pugging, and I concluded that GDKP is the far superior method of the two for a number of reasons:
1.) No threat of ninja looting.
2.) Even if no item you need drops you still get rewarded with gold for your time and effort.
3.) Everyone gets rewarded.
4.) No threat of people leaving the party.
The problem isn’t GDKP, it is Gold Buyers.
Blizzard should enforce their terms of service and issue sweeping permabans to gold buyers.
No one would have any issue with GDKPs if RMT didn’t exist. I would probably enjoy doing them myself. But as it stands I don’t partake in it. Nor do I partake in boosting, another RMT fueled activity.
It all boils down to players who did RMT wanting ways to buy power directly, and players are offering it because they want a ban-free piece of the RMT gold.
They don’t run it because of wanting RMT gold. They run it because they want either items or rewards for their time. Gold is just the universal currency that is used as a medium.
Keep using that AH bud. That promotes RMT as well.