All this Vulpera talk made me finally completed the last leg of the Allied Race quest to unlock them and I made a new hunter character and I love them. I don’t have the time to play all the other races and classes I have but I still love them.
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That Teldrassil is older than 20 or 30 years.
I feel like I see too many RP profiles of several hundred or thousand year old elves being born in Darnassus or Teldrassil.
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I don’t disagree with your point, but I feel the need for a potential rebuttal:
The Bronze Dragonflight exists and we know since the Catacylsm they’ve been using mortal agents to help with temporal shenanigans. So it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that someone could have been born on Teldrassil, the Bronze Flight plucked them away during the Burning, they’ve spent the past hundred/thousand years guarding the time stream, and now they’re enjoying “Retirement” back in their “present”.
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Crap I kinda want to make that character, now.
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The Bronze Flight didn’t bless the Teldrassil tree, maybe Nozdormu knew something we didn’t.
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I thought none of the Dragonflights blessed Teldrassil. Or was that retconned to? (Honestly hard to keep the lore straight at this point)
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One of my pandaren is a Rogue, and since so many refuse to take the pandaren seriously, I refuse to take this guy seriously. I mog his weapons into dual Spider-Splatter Maces (the Vanilla frying pan with the green egg on the inside.) I just enjoy the absurdity of an acrofatic bear-man killing demons with kitchenware.
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Yeah none did at first, though Nozdormu is notable cause it was his blessing that specifically gave the Night Elves immortality in the first place, but the tree did eventually get blessed by Alexstrasza and Ysera to protect it from the Emerald Nightmare sometime before Cata.
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Why the Sin’dorei {Beyond the obvious} hates the Ren’dorei so much - they were once our people too, regardless if they are a threat to the Sunwell as proven, and traitors. They were once your brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, etc.
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This is going to sound like a flippant answer, I assure you it is not.
We messed with the Sin’dorei’s good hash.
No, seriously. Thalassian Elves (All elves really, but Thalassian in particular) are all mana addicts. The Sunwell is one giant vat of Feel Good Juice™, a vat that we Ren’dorei disrupt just by daring to be slightly close to it.
And like any addict, the Sin’dorei aggressively fight to preserve their stuff.
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I mean, it is kinda dumb but also true?
We have no idea if Kaldorei ever kicked their addiction, or if that’s the reason they have Moonwells all over the place, that’s their version of naltrexone since, from memory, Moonwells are made with a drop of ‘water’ from the new Well of Eternity and a complicated ritual invoking Elune’s power, and hence why they defend them so viciously because it is literally a font of their Goddess’s essence, or at least they believe it to be so.
The Quel’dorei/Sin’dorei have the Sunwell, which is now reborn and hopped up with Light magic so we have yet another combination of Arcane/Holy Magic hopping up Elves.
The Highborn basically did whatever they could to get magic edibles, the sect stuck in Kalimdor even went so far as to bind a powerful demon in a flawed ritual that eventually began to consume them in turn, and their addiction was so great they just let it happen so long as they themselves weren’t eaten first.
The Ren’dorei are the only Elf without a physical source of power, but they traded it for 'Cool’™ Mental Issues Powers and tentacles coming out of their everything, along with the inevitable slide into madness and eternal torment because the Void is all about pretending it is Cthulu.
Hell, I think even Demon Hunters never kicked the habit, they just traded down to feeding directly off Fel energy and the souls of their enemies.
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Why are we afraid of Orcs, Trolls and the Undead again?
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Somebody has to …
Because angry orcs with axes can literally kill gods. That’s why. Trolls and undead probably do some shenanigans, too.
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Sure, but much like Rastakhan’s tacit condoning of Zul’s actions, I’d suggest the Alliance (or at least aspects thereof) tacitly condoned Garithos’.
Yes, the Alliance was based in Lordaeron. Yes, Lordaeron’s fall effectively crippled it, leading to a “new” Alliance forming with Stormwind at its centre. Yes, Garithos was not officially under the employ of Varian Wrynn, Bolvar Fordragon or any other leader of the new Alliance. He was a minor Lordaeronian noble who had just enough clout to assume a command position of the shattered remnants of Lordaeron’s forces. Basically he led a self-directed resistance militia. I realise all of this.
However. The man used the Alliance name. He received aid from Alliance forces (or at least individual nations of the Alliance). And as far as I can tell, the Alliance never made any attempt to distance themselves from Garithos - apologise for the aid they gave him, or anything of the sort. If a rogue agent commits evil or dangerous acts in your name, typically you’ll distance yourself from them (even the Horde did this when they were blamed for a massacre in Ashenvale, in the Shattering if I recall). The Alliance, on Garithos… remain silent. Neither condoning nor condemning his actions in their name.
Indeed, Prospector Anvilward, the singular Alliance ambassador to the Sin’dorei in the BC quests immediately before they officially joined the Horde, was engaged in espionage against the Sin’dorei, and summarily executed.
Perhaps the Alliance didn’t directly intend to kill or even alienate the blood elves. But if it wasn’t their intent, they certainly achieved it through diplomatic neglect at best - and hostility at worst.
Edit: I’d also add that I think it’s slightly dishonest to suggest that the Alliance of Lordaeron and the Modern Alliance are two completely different institutions. There was a transition period and a change in membership, sure. But pretty much all of the members of the Alliance of Lordaeron who weren’t wiped out by the Scourge remained members of the Modern Alliance - the only exceptions being Kul Tiras and Dalaran who distanced themselves for their own reasons. Dalaran due to the politicking of Aethas Sunreaver mainly, and Kul Tiras due to Jaina’s actions. Even Stromgarde, in ruins, remained officially a part of the Alliance.
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I’ve actually started wondering how many people have played through MoP. I mean that was 2012-2014 I think? I don’t know the turnover rate for WoW this late in its life but it’s usually pretty high for MMOs.
Oh, Trolls are the scariest of all…
Their wild gods and ‘Loa’ actually help them in their lore rather than showing up when Blizz plot demands and then leaving because Sylvanas wanted a bonfire…
wait, that’s not a reason to fear them, that’s a titanic plothole.
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Fair enough. I suppose there are two flavors.
One, there are people out there looking to show off how badass their character is, and I would not call them conflict averse. There are others who just want to drink and chat, and those I would. I was primarily thinking of the latter, but you have a point.
This is a good point.
In the goblin starting zone, it’s mostly goblins who lived with other goblins. While the Steamwheedle went out into the world at least two generations ago, some cartels stayed on Kezan.
There’s a part of the goblin starting zone where they find a note written in Orcish, but your character can understand it because they had the goblin equivalent of taking Spanish as an elective in High School (except Orcish).
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On the subject of the Elves and Alliance, wasn’t it implied that the belves were like [—] this close to joining the Alliance because of Varian before Jaina and the Sunreavers goofed around in Dalaran? I feel like the blood elves don’t really hate the Alliance so much that they kind of look at Jaina (and I suppose the Kul Tirans by association now) with a look that could be filled with mild inconvenience.
Yeah Varian says it outright - but it wasn’t a publicly known thing among the average Blood Elves, or humans for that matter. Varian sorta surprises everyone with it. Of course folks didn’t know about it for obvious reasons. Can’t imagine Garrosh would’ve seen it as a good thing.
So… I genuinely don’t know that the average Blood Elf or Alliance member would know about it, even to this day.
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I haven’t seen any Vulpera who don’t keep the hardship and seriousness.