Common IC viewpoints you just don't get

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This is indeed accurate and will always be the biggest crux that you can easily group Roleplayers in many ways. Or sort of a leaning position. Everyone has an ideal vision of Warcraft may be. Whether its ugly or beautiful, unified or divided, gruesome or cartoonish.

Personally; I lean on Scenario A, where Warcraft is more reflective of human flaws. Though the conflicts in WoW are radically different from what we endure in real life. The themes depicted can be empathetically connected to, or invoke emotion in some way or form.

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People use Zul’s actions in Cataclysm/MoP a lot to justify the Alliance’s actions but I may need some clarification. It’s been a long time since Cata dropped so my old man brain could be fuzzy, but I seem to recall that it was Talanji in a little boat in Stormwind harbor giving out quests about Zul’s crew being bad news? Or was that someone else? Like I said, I need a reminder here since they aren’t sitting in the harbor anymore for me to reference.

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Lore wise, Talanji is suspicious of Zul and his followers and in part sought out Horde help (before being imprisoned by Alliance) as a preemptive move to counteract this and secure Zandalar’s future. Rastakhan is a dumb and has us help Zul until Zul brings Mogu to invade Zandalar and the coup attempt occurs.

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Well yeah. I was just trying to remember who the troll was in Stormwind harbor giving out quests to go stab Zul’s followers.

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Oh. That one was a Darkspear from Cata, since BfA functionally confirmed the majority of the Zandalari didn’t care to leave Zandalar.

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Mogo no like how people say only ______ race can be ______ class. Mogo think anyone able learn any class with right teacher and study hard enough.

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get a Taurajold of yourself.

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Coming in later here, but uh…

Funny thing for me is that I don’t understand why people aren’t suspicious or wary or outright terrified of demon hunter, death knight, warlock, or other “dark” characters.

Actually, I’ve played a lot of those characters, and kinda dislike that they aren’t treated badly. Half their appeal was that sweet, sweet prejudice angst.

Part of me thinks it comes down to personal preference. I think most players want to play “good guys”, and “good guys” don’t discriminate. I personally have like… ten characters, and I’d only consider one of them a “good guy”. Maybe two or three. Sure, many are good-aligned, but most are various degrees of jerk. Part of me thinks your average tavern RPer probably impose our OOC tendency to be conflict averse onto their characters, because they, understandably, just want to have a casual RP without delving into all the prejudice that’s latent in Azeroth’s world.

Another part of me really wants to blame Blizzard. This is a direct result of their tell, don’t show philosophy. They tell us that demon hunters and void elves are in a constant struggle to maintain their sanity against alien, cosmic forces. But, do we really see a demon hunter or void elf lose themselves to madness? Demon hunters, sure, if you do the demon hunter campaign in Legion. But even then, those fallen demon hunters aren’t framed as a tragic side effect of their sacrifice, but inherently corrupt and evil by their personalities. Void elves? Only in N’zoth’s fanfictions Visions. Warlocks tap into Fel, which we see the Legion erecting massive soul forges to fuel. But, our warlocks somehow, inexplicably, get all the cool green flames without really having to grapple with the unsavory bits. In one of the few times I’ll say “Vanilla lore had it right”, to get their succubus, warlocks were sent to murder an innocent man and steal his soul. But now they’re just “We use the dark powers for the greater good!” but don’t really detail why those powers are “dark”.

Blizzard tells us “these guys are like, super dangerous guys! they use dark magic~™*”, but they don’t elaborate on why that magic is dark, other than “NPCs who use this magic are more typically evil than good”. So, I think it’s easy for any roleplayer to lose sight of why dark magic is dark.

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Mogo… oh Mogo.

Do you want Vulpera Demon Hunters? Because this is how we get Vulpera Demon Hunters.

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I’m always “:O!” when I’m reminded I wrote something on the forums lol. And I’m always pleasently surprised when people like my words…

One thing that made me think though, a point I saw brought up regarding Vulpera. It really is super unfortunate this RP culture mindset that has formed around the vulpera. I actually find it very stupid.
Of course, there are a lot of vulpera rpers that are unfortunately not helping, and I especially hate that its thought theyre just fur covered goblins, which is not the case. Vulpera probably get a long with goblin, but probably would have better community among tauren, pandaren and shamanic orcs (but I always like to think how others can get along with orcs…my orc love showing…)

But this mindset that some members of the Horde just up and hate vulpera so much is really wild to me. To the point where IC, vulpera think all orcs are out to spit and kick them. When I feel this isn’t the reality at all, and is instead created by these people are so stupidly against “furries”. This is not 2008 anymore. I think if your argument is Ew furries, you’ve got a weak argument.
You lining your belts with vulpera tails just make you look like a Horde traitor. I’m sure the Horde Council, that has a vulpera on it, would love to hear about all the vulpera you killed and crushed.
I wish I could talk to more Vulpera, but sadly not many want to speak with me because its always meant with surprise.

To any vulpera reading this, how many rpers actually try to keep up with the story of survival, travel, hardship and seriousness of what they’ve gone through? How many mix in as much as they can of what lore we’re given, to try and really create the vulpera life that is both humble and adventerous? Is it actually more common? Is it drowned out by all the over abundance of memes and yelling “uwu” for no reason? I really want to know, because I want vulpera to be taken more seriously, and I’m curious if its hard to get these narratives going due to memes or too many vulpera behaving a bit too far from how they were given to us.

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Those guys ended up hanging out in Stormwind Harbor for awhile, actually. I wonder if they ever ended up marrying some locals.

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Looks around

  • I want vulpera demon hunters.
  • Tauren rogues.
  • Draenei warlocks
  • Undead shaman and their totems are cute little headstones
  • Dwarf druids and all the animal forms have beards.
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Alright, I will accept this trade on a singular condition.

Mechagnomes can be Druids and Shamans. With robotic forms instead of spirit nonsense.

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Agreed.
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OMG that would rule.

I fully embrace this! Give us robo druids.

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Mogo wouldn’t care. Mogo not discriminate base on race or class. Mogo judge based on personality. Mogo only dislike those who cut into Mogo AH profits or those who treat others disrespect.

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There was a Vulpera fortune teller that would hang out in Duskwood sometimes, what a wonderful person both IC and OOC, doing actual tarot readings for people. I hope he’s doing good, I haven’t seen him in a while. Any Hordies seen a Vulpera named Jaxi around?

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Also five Mechagnome Druids in Cat Form can form into a Voltron.

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< Sage nod. >

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I’ve gotten to the point where I can’t really RP my Vulpera anymore. Most characters I run into in Org are just outright hostile, which baffles me since he’s pretty much an Orc personality wise and a grizzled veteran. He’s even loyal to the Zandalari empire and thinks the Vulpera would be better off becoming part of it, and he still gets hate from Zandalari characters.

I’m sure not all of these people mix IC with OOC, but it’s a little alarming the outright hate and how difficult it is to RP with him. I understand how it got to this point, but most of us normal Vulpera players are nothing like the others who gave them a bad name.

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