Common IC viewpoints you just don't get

They sort of have that, there’s a mail chest item from island expeditions that uses that tattoo texture.

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For me it’s the hate blood elves still get from time to time and that others consider them weak for some reason.

Oh I know, I have the Dragonrider’s Harness. There’s also a plate one too. But I like the idea of a shirt, that way it can be on no matter what chest piece I pick, plus then any armor class could wear it.

This was the most baffling thing to me.

Like, I get that between being a pissant and being helpful, historically, Genn has almost solely picks the pissant route, sure. However, I do hate him getting crap for relentlessly hunting Sylvanas.

Like… I’m not a parent, but I know that parents are low-key crazy about their kids. She blighted his kingdom and killed his son, so I can forgive Genn for attacking Sylvanas in Legion (at any time really). The only thing I can fault him for is poor timing, moreso than action or intent.

I tried to read Elegy and A Good War, but they were both awful, so I quit. I do remember the scene where Sylvanas convinces Saurfang to march on Teldrassil, and one of the reasons was “Genn attacked the Warchief”. I can’t remember if Sylvanas mentions it or Saurfang thinks it, but I think Saurfang thinks it. Which is dumb as all hell. One of Saurfang’s big moments is the death of his son. Certainly he’d understand that Genn isn’t pissed at the Horde, he’s pissed at Sylvanas, and would have attacked her regardless of her being Warchief.

EDIT: Or… Maybe it was that Saurfang thought Genn was pissed at the Horde because he thought the Horde abandoned them at the Broken Shore and caused Varian’s death? I can’t remember the details. Either way, the thought, “Maybe Greymane just wants Sylvanas dead” should have crossed his mind.

EDIT 2 - Electric Boogaloo: Then again, with Sylvanas as Warchief forever, maybe just wanting her dead would have caused problems, even if Genn’s anger wasn’t at the Horde specifically. Regardless, point remains.

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My biggest peeve with that case was that we Alliance didn’t get to see the juicy, juicy political fallout of this event.

My personal hope was for Anduin to try to do something or make apologies/amends to the Horde, but for the limits of the High King role to keep him from doing much. Such as Anduin trying to censure Genn, only for the other Alliance leaders to step in and say that, as the leaders are equals, Anduin had no ability to punish Genn.

(I did want to see Rogers get busted down to manning a desk somewhere, as the worst peaceful punishment Anduin could inflict on her - but somehow the most outspoken Alliance warhawk didn’t get featured at all in the faction war expansion. Rogers would have made a better boss in Dazar’alor than any of the introduced-just-to-die Alliance NPCs there.)

If this plot point was elaborated on more, then it would make the Horde bringing it up so much more impactful. As it is now, it just feels like a weird lore hiccup, because it’s very un-Anduin to say nothing about the event at all.

It’d be like a character in the next book saying “Well, the Horde all loved the Burning of Teldrassil, because not even Baine or Hamuul or anyone except one small orc child in Orgrimmar even twitched at the news” when that feels like a rude way of canonizing the oversight of not including a reaction at the time.

I am sad the two old grizzled warriors who both lost sons never got some screentime together. I think Genn and Saurfang would have made a great battle duo in a different story, where they’re both staunch patriots of their respective factions but come to understand and respect each other.

In some different context, Saurfang could even have echoed the “Let a grieving father past” moment.

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It’s things like this that don’t make or break an expansion, but man… BfA had a lot of them. Just a lot of really sloppy details like that. A lot of missed opportunities that just add up over the course of the expansion.

Not using Rogers was a big one in-and-of-itself because… Man, she was the perfect antagonist. She’s a C-List character, people know her name, but she’s anything but super important. No one would really be upset if she was killed. She’s not a racial leader. She’s not an old-guard character. She’s just…

She’s the kind of villains that needed to take the forefront, not Sylvanas or N’zoth.

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And the best part is the horde could have actually killed her, unlike Jaina who is too marketable for blizzard to sacrifice.

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That all dragons apparently died out or are in the process of doing so.

Yet more and more keep showing up, whelps in tow.

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i just thought they got hit with the nerf bat

At the end of cataclysm the dragonflights were drained of power and made mortal which had the horrible in game effect of them being exactly same, and doubling down on that in the lore with them losing no visible power or relevance.

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I’ll go to bat as devil’s advocate for this one: the cataclysm was only a few years ago. Dragons are whelps for a long time before they get their adolescent drake form. Unless we actively see a dragon egg hatch that isn’t of the black or Twilight flight, I’m under the assumption that any whelps we see are the final brood before Deathwing’s defeat. Which is pretty depressing to think about for too long.

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I think that was explained in one of the books written about WoW, too.

Damn shame, because I like dragons :frowning:

maybe im dumb, but im not seeing a connection between magical powers and…laying an egg

I could make a really bad comment about that… but I’m getting the feeling I shouldn’t risk kinkshaming the dragons.

It’s in regard to magic or whatever the Titans did that was lost in Cataclysm.

Unless they’re Wrathion, in which case they mature into smokin’ hot dudes in a matter of minutes.

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I think to Kenixx’ point we were told that oh no the dragons are mortal now and they’ve lost their ability to be the be all, end all authorities and - effectively - “Gods of our Time” because of Deathwing’s fall (with a little its okay though Aggra is pregnant :))) sprinkled in for weirdness) and then proceed to rely heavily upon them to power ancient Titan artifacts and Azeroth herself and so on and so on, while they still pretty regularly keep their houses in order and threaten us.

Not that it’s main-universe canon but Blizzard also continues to pretty heavily “Holy hell, DRAGONS!!! SO COOL!” in Hearthstone, with a recent back to back card set dedicated entirely to them and then a mini-set dedicated to the restoration of Galakrond, the Ur dragon of ultimate doom.

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-taps head-

Can’t lose what you never had

specially when we decide to not like how theyre doing their job (Malygos)

I agree with you and Kenixx, I was responding to Arinaku’s gripe of why we still see whelps in game even though the flights are supposed to be infertile, not the place dragons still hold in the story per se.

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Oh.

Well then. Good day to you, ghost.

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plot twist the dragons aren’t actually depowered they just saw an opportunity to get out of work and they took it

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