I’d like to just commend everyone (mostly…) for their kindness and genuine, good faith posts that contribute to this thread.
The Forum Cabal thanks you and posters like you.
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To actually post, why is the Horde okay with completely obliterating large swaths of forests on Kalimdor?
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It’s a weird one for me with orcs constantly leading that charge when haha remember how Hellfire Peninsula was Tanaan Jungle and they had to flee their own world because it was crumbling to dust and going scarce on resources.
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It just does not make any logical sense even with accepting that orcs are homicidal barbarian bigots. They still understand the importance of nature and the spirits and balance, mostly. I don’t get it.
I’ve always played Greyah as thinking the forests should be given back to the night elves, because she can see how unbalanced stripping Kalimdor of that natural resource is.
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“Have to use something to build all those new farmland, build those homes, fuel those forges and hearths.”
Since Classic and after cataclysm the horde lumber operations across Kalimdor has turned from need to deforestation so devastating even Brazilian dictators are jealous.
I get that, but it’s turned into something much more something something military complex shoot ourselves in the foot kill the world who cares if we die at least we have lots of spikes about it
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My optimistic mag’har warrior (I am become human male paladin and male orc warrior, bringer of death) thinks that orcs should still absolutely be ashamed of where they’re at and just wanting a return to pre-Gul’dan sabotage form is lazy and a bit selfish. He thinks that they could be even better people than that.
and now i just want the face turn of all face turns where Blizzard makes orcs the most staunch defenders of Azeroth because they messed up so bad the first (few) times around
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Are you okay. Please don’t tell me you have a male blood elf paladin too
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IIRC there’s something in the woods making both the night elves and Orcs crazy and that’s why they’re trying to murder eachother and harvest-mad. It was mentioned in one of the comics I think.
i’ve dodged male blood elf paladin and male night elf hunter
Man if only some of this stuff was explored in-game but I’m an old man yelling at a cloud.
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Don’t get too comfortable
< Serious face. >
Hafts.
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a real orc uses a weapon forged as one solid piece of metal.
It just has to keal.
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A sharp rock can KEAL!!
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Nicholas Cage ghostwrote this after a bunch of methed up cultists broke into his house.
mandy was an interesting movie
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i never saw that movie. explain yourself.
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Going OOC for a second, but it’s a terrible truth that such massive deforestation comes part and parcel with rapid population and economic growth. Going all the way to even ancient pre-industrial peoples. There’s a reason why the economic/population juggernaut that is the US has seen the lost of over 75% of its own original forests. And why it continues to be the world’s leader in the consumption of lumber.
The main difference between states like the US and Brazil is that we got most of our deforestation and strip mining over with earlier and used it to move over a services/information based economy that can be sustained entirely on imports. The US then uses said wealth/power to effectively export all that environmentally destructive extraction/manufacturing stuff out to other countries. Countries like Brazil, which bear the environmental brunt in order to produce the products that then get exported back to the very countries that lecture them on how much they hurt the environment. But it’s also the only thing that allows them their own populations/economies to grow and improve their way of life.
Which isn’t to say there aren’t lots of conniving Brazilian politicians and businessmen who aren’t trying to exploit that in order to line their own pockets. Or that things couldn’t be done more sustainably.
I bring it up because the Orgrimmar and the surrounding Horde population centers are only a few decades old. Additionally, the people are undergoing a massive shift from pre-industrial semi-nomads to that of settled urbanites who’re undergoing an industrial revolution. And (thirdly) their population is growing by leaps and bounds. Naturally going to cut down everything in sight- at least compared to population that’s been settled and largely unchanged for centuries. They NEED more.
Just from the point of view of the average person in these situations, the damage to the environment is seen more in the context of progress/prosperity. This is doubly true when the damage to the environment is happening “over there”.
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