Common IC viewpoints you just don't get

This is really less of an IC take and more of an OOC one that really bothers me.

Demon Hunters are not blind. They arguably have better sight than people that can actually see. Honestly it depends on who you ask. The RPG book(i know it’s non canon I’m terrible) says Illidan could identify demons and magic users much more easily since they were actually colored in his vision. Everything else was more of a maddening thing.

I do believe they comment on this in the Illidan novel too but I can’t find an excerpt from it for some reason. It just drives me bonkers when someone brings in a demon hunter NPC for an RP or an event, makes a joke about them being blind. Then sends them on their merry way.

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Knaak’s War of the Ancients trilogy features Illidan adjusting to his new demonic sight. He literally sees magic.

And the newer novel, Illidan, shows that again. They have sight, they have arguably better sight! No shapeshifter can hide from them. Demon, dragon, or other.

They do. The POV character for that particular chapter watches as “glow-worm” like lines begin to fill his vision, then vaguely describes the days as his sight returns. They, basically, have full 360 awareness as it’s more of a magical sense about them from what I recall.

counter point: if you can make it that far reading anything of knaak’s

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While we’re talking about Demon Hunters, I think they need to quit rubbing their “sacrifices” in everyone’s face.

“oh boo hoo woe is me I sold my soul and got these sweet wings and horns and eye beams has anyone had it harder than I have”

Pffff.

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I’d argue it more applies to Night Elves for cultural stigma reasons since the druidic culture of their people is much more likely to keep shunning them while their Blood Elf peers are sitting in their homes sipping tea going “Mmm yes, quaint.”

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You’re just mad they’re a better version of your class.

…Again.

Come back to me when Demon Hunters can appear out of stealth beside someone and emote quietly braiding their hair.

Until then, they’re just hot topic rogues

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What about divebombing somebody from two hundred feet above to immediately stop and then braid their hair?

If they’re below level 49, they already can.

I mean, I guess L50+ could use SL invis potions, too, but that’s not “appearing out of stealth”…

I got you fam:

He was aware now of the ebb and flow of energies all around. The lights were auras of living things, some bright, some filled with energy. The brightest of all came from the being who stood beside him.

“Is this how you see the world?” Vandel asked.

“It is one way. Your mind becomes accustomed to it eventually. It maps its new way of seeing onto its old way of understanding reality. There will come a time when you will be able to perceive the world as once you did. It is a much narrower way of seeing, but our minds crave familiarity.”

“You are saying you can shift from seeing the world like this to seeing it as if you had eyes?”

“Indeed, and many gradations between.”

He tried to imagine Illidan as he had previously seen him, and slowly a very rough image of the Betrayer stood before him, like a child’s illustration drawn in mud. Its mud mouth moved as Illidan spoke. “In a way it is like working magic. You get a feel for the flows of power. You get a sense of the souls of the living and the unliving.”

I personally RP that my DH can’t perceive color differences (and thus cannot read). But that’s a self nerf because being essentially illiterate creates RP. I’ve done a lot of walk-up of “hey could you read this to me please? I can’t see” and people always respond well to it.

Spectral sight even sees through objects, which is highlighted in several quests: you straight up see through walls. It cuts through illusion, makes spellweaving immediately obvious because it’s very distinct too.

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Regarding demon hunters I’d go so far as to suggest that it depends on the demon hunter.

There’s one in felwood who claims he can only see demons clearly - everything else is just vague shapes.

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I’d just consider that as having been retconned, tbh. Because all other recent fonts of information suggest that their sight is as good as a normal persons and better. Illidan implies that it can be fine-tuned but identifying people, magic and demons are at very least the baseline.

Inanimate objects would be the most finnicky point I think: with spectral sight active, you really see people hiding behind walls/hills/etc, which can be very disorienting. I can imagine a few DH straight up walking into walls because they were tunnel visioning too hard. I’ve just been RPing it as the magical equivalent of using a magnifying glass or binoculars: put e’m on when you wanna focus on something you might not otherwise be able to see, then put e’m away again.

WoD. In comes these random races and they start making a mess about the planet.

As a Blood Elf it would be a natural viewpoint that most Blood Elves til’ this day would at the very least hate the Amani that plagued the Ghostlands. After what happened there, I would also best bet that they wouldn’t trust trolls AFTER either. Also it isn’t a matter of how special you look, it’s a matter of history between races. I can understand your viewpoint of Draenei. I wonder why we don’t call the orc’s, space orc’s, because they also came from the same lands of the Draenei then.

It’s also a matter of how characters are raised as well. Lifechances and such y’know? Sociology.

Really it depends on your character, yes the Burning of Teldrassil happened but people are going to have different views. And most people who do play ‘horde sympathizers’ have their reasons I’m sure.

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This character desires nothing more than peace with the Horde, because she knows that the actions of tyrants do not define the race as a whole.

See: Queen Azshara and the Night Elves. Even after Sylvanas burned down Teldrassil. Even after everything Garrosh did, guess what? The Night Elves did far, far worse to Azeroth in the past.

She by no means LIKES the Horde. In fact, whenever a Forsaken gets so much as a stubbed toe she takes satisfaction out of it, but you know, maybe trying to slaughter each other just leads to more slaughter? Maybe we should just grow up, despite being thousands of years old at this point, and shake the hand of the Greenskins?

Lets save the souls of those lost to the Banshee’s Madness, give each other a nod, and leave each other alone.

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That’s a really cool IC perspective actually - relating it back to Azshara and the Night Elves… I like that, it’s cool!

Hey kid, wanna buy a…

opens trenchcoat

event invitation?

(Okay, but seriously! I’m hosting an event as a preliminary, diplomatic discussion for refostering relations with the Horde! You’re welcome to join, if you can make it :slight_smile: Speakers, guards, and just people there to listen are welcome!)

That because I’m a Pandaren that I’m nice, welcoming, and just here for hugs. It can be difficult to be taken seriously. Even though I’m a bipedal bear that could snap most races in two while balancing a full keg in each arm.

The Pandaren have an order where kids die regularly in their attempt to join. Many are trained in martial arts and shown fighting off other races all the time despite not being part of an actual military. They’ve survived attempted genocide, enslavement (I guess several races have), and an old god invasion. They’re constantly having to defend themselves. Pandaria is a very hostile continent and even the turtle Shen-zin Su isn’t all peaches and rainbows.

It’s actually gotten in the way of me being able to enjoy RP in the past when I was actively enjoying and RPing in WoW. I wish WoW had a better character creator and an option for idle animations to help with this view. Some scuffed fur and scars would have better suited some of my Pandaren. Their character model/animations don’t reflect their lore that well, in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB5uBHmWUQI

If people want to RP the huggable panda (as I often do!), then that’s totally great! I’ve found myself in situations though where if you don’t want to RP as the huggable panda then RPs can be really not fun as your character gets disregarded.

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