I didn’t really hit a wall on either my rogue or lock until 1750ish.
And mind you, that’s with LFG pugs and not seriously PVPing much since WoD, with virtually no practice, with my only goal being to get the spider (Which is -the- best gladiator mount in years.) over really pushing rating much.
There’s only so much you can do when your healer facetanks a ret pally without even trying to run away.
Then that’s my skill level? Hello? Did u not listen to what I said ?
I think you misunderstood what I was saying and it’s been said 100’s of times before, even admitted by Blizzard themselves many times in the past. The longer the season goes on the harder it is to level up where you need both gear AND skill.
So your “Inb4 the players who say “git gud” without thinking” post is crap, you got your rating back when the season was young and it was actually much easier to rank up than it is now so you have no idea how hard it is to get back to that rank for those of us who are stuck at any rank or iLVL and the answer to OP’s quandary is simply to get good and get some gear.
Actually it isn’t crap. Because if we take the very point that you’re trying to make…
You’d know that the actual solution was to change this upgrading garbage to 1 Honor and 1 Conquest set and if you want to do the upgrading for PvE progression then yehaaw you can have it.
“Simply get good and get some gear” showcases to me that you do not understand the problem. And possibly even lacking the experience to understand why that’s such a tater tot response to make.
The problem is is that OP is complaining how hard it is to surpass 1500 rating, that’s the entire point of the post. The solution is simple, getting good. I can guarantee you OP is in the ‘I am bad and won’t admit it’ group of players, or thinks they are genuinely skilled enough and just can’t see them as being the issue.
I’ve seen under geared players perform very well in PVP and seen over geared players perform badly. It’s the same with all aspects of everything in this game, like the first players to time an M15 in SL were doing so in 190 iLVL gear while players now at 220+ iLVL still struggle, because they lack the skill to do what is needed.
it’s no different in PVP. Sure there are carry groups, but as someone who has experienced the mid season issues of carry groups you also run into 2 other types of groups and due to how MM works it’s all about equal number of games.
You get carry groups, you get groups who are genuinely trying to rank and gear up and you get garbage groups who have no idea and are easy wins. OP needs skill the surpass the genuine groups to ensure they get a better than 50% win rate and gain rank. 1 lose against the carry groups, 1 win against the easy wins and a 50/50 chance at gaining rank against the others.
Well that’s interesting Akadruid. You’ve seen a 207 ilvl player beat a 226? Amazing! Not to mention even in the casual setting of Random BGs? That’s just…wow Akadruid. Especially in those carry groups that you’re mentioning where players are dropping money to get to certain rating brackets so they can even stand a chance in PvP? With players who are doing the carrying dropping CRs with 226-233 ilvl gear?
You literally said it yourself. Again.
Better add in gear to make matters even worse amirite?
Your “suggestion” is dumb. Because not everyone has the time or interest to play at a Duelist level to even have a chance to compete all the way down to a casual level. Again, 1 Honor set, 1 Conquest set. Educate me on why this system would be worse than what we have now.
M+ 15 clearing at 190 being one of your arguments yet again showcases to me how much you know about the cons of both gear and skill being stacked against you in WoW PvP.
Boosters push themselves back down into the 1400+ brackets for easy wins with boostees. And of course they are going to be geared and have a comp/strat.
Well yeh I have to start using PVE examples because you just can’t understand how skill is the biggest factor in being good at this game. We all should know that geared players can be garbage, but some players who have limited gear can also be good and if you cannot agree to even that than there is no point in continuing to bash my head against a brick wall to make my point, you seem to just want to be right even if you wrong.
No you’re just bashing your head. You have no noteworthy point and continue to showcase your lack of knowledge in PvP. Such confidence when you don’t even know what you’re talking about. Bringing up PvE in comparison tells me this to be true.
But if you want I’d love for you to show me the casual players who are 207 beating 226-233 players. I’ll wait for you to drop a video
Everyone in 1400 is not a booster. OP wants to blame mmr gains and losses for his inability to hit higher rating. He is likely losing to players that have mmr less than him so he is losing lots of points
I am not really good pvp’er but have hit 2k a couple of times over the years when I was really trying hard. In bfa 2k was a grind but not a huge wall I couldnt get past. In shadowlands however 1300 seems to be the wall with all the glads selling a carry for gold. 1500 is as high as I can get and i refuse to pay gold to a glad to get 1600 
I really wish the carry thing would be addressed or flat out make it against tos
Congratulations on making it to 1500, you must be skilled!
1300 club 
Thing is you are poking fun at people yet can’t even get 1400.
For the people who are confused, and arguing amongst themselves, as well as throwing out insults like “the op is just bad, that’s why they can’t climb” type of comments.
I was simply pointing out that the MMR/Rating system once you get to 1400+ is extremely messed up. You can have an entire team of 1400-1500 people, win 3-4 matches, lose 1-2 matches, and you still drop more rating than you gained. You have very little control over the people you are matched against.
For example last night, i was in a group of 1400-1500 rated people, trying to push 1600. We won 3 in a row. We then lost 2. And all of our ratings where now lower than when we started, even though we won more than we lost in our matches. We were all roughly the same exact rating, AND, the teams it was putting us against, would have multiple 1600+ rated players, rocking full 213 gear, when our team didn’t have a single person over 1600.
Why are 1400-1500 players, getting put against 1600 players? Why is it you can win 3, lose 2, and you are still down rating? Those are the issues i am trying to point out here.
I am not stating “im good at the game, why am i not climbing”. I never said that, nor did i imply that. I simply pointed out the flaws in the system, and how it screws over people who didn’t get their gear at the begin of the season. That was my entire point of my rant/complaints.
It’s a flawed system that feels absolutely impossible to beat. At least for those coming into the season late.
Arena is dead that’s why (source : https://arenatracker.com/, 4k games played across all the US wednesday, for a game supposedly played by millions of people, lmao), the few people still doing it are high end players/streamers doing boosts and even that prolly dried out. Can’t have a functional ladder without players from all walks of skill levels.
Also the meta being frustrating hot garbage for anyone not playing Mage/Hpal/x for months probably didn’t do it any favor.
You have 3 wins and 4 losses in 2’s, so you aren’t 1400+. You have won 44% of your rated BGs. You aren’t winning more than losing.
Yeah I ended up getting stuck in the 1400-1500 range and just feel like it’s really difficult to break out of it, but then again I’m not great at PVP either so it’s nothing too shocking. Still a shame as that PVP elite set is really good looking.
Just stop paying if it isn’t fun
Feedback is good but stop paying and definitely stop using the cash shop
I went from 1416 to 1624 in a matter of an hour or 2…
because thats my skill level? im not having fun just pointing out a reality. also i did pvp for a week in shadowlands and thats about it.