Class/Race Combos That Should Not Happen

Turalyon also felt pain from just touching her. It’s like a jolt of ligthing to them if they touch.

Most zealots have the same mindset really.

As for lightforging. The forsaken fan base had reacted already about that concept, and had been an overall negative one. I beleive that is best to leave that dog laying asleep.

Why don’t Lightforged Draenei death knights seek similar annihilation?

I don’t think your theory holds up.

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For death knights, a dev I beleive explained that when a lightforged individual dies, the light within the body leaves it. This makes it possible to raise the corpse.

The racials is just mechanics at that point like shadow specs lfd

Lore doesn’t matter as much as you think. I never stopped hearing about how it MUST be tinkers because they are the only WC3 hero class left!

Blizzard never said that was a requirement, but oh boy did the players enshrine this as some ridiculous “fact,” kind of like “but tauren have hooves! you can’t sneak with hooves!” Of course, Blizzard never said hooves were the issue (and anyone who has hunted deer can tell you hooves are very stealthy indeed). But the players ran with it like it was some ultimate barrier that cannot be overcome.

Classes are like someone’s career. Careers aren’t genetically programmed into you at birth. You can decide to take a different path than your dominate culture typically does. If you couldn’t, then orcs wouldn’t be warlocks. Human warlocks wouldn’t have to hide in a secret basement in Stormwind. Playing the outcast is just as viable a way to roleplay as playing the default.

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I dunno, I feel like there’s a variety of different ways you can make a zealot. I think that there’s too many brains that can take the same concept, and have a different reaction.

I do respect your views, though, and do see that it would be a challenge to justify. However, as someone who readily ascribes themselves part of the Forsaken fan base, I’m gonna say that there were a lot of negative reactions - including my own - but as I explored the concept, I realized that I was being closed minded, and that there were many more possibilities than I had realized.

I would rather see the game become exclusive and the story assist in enabling those even with ‘unique’ mindsets to do and play as they desire, and if the story can embrace these complex nuances, then even better.

Lore actually does matter very much to me, and I’d hate to have that be the reason why this is embraced. I would love to see Blizz work these things out in ways that grow the story.

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Mmm. I don’t think so.

Also, keep in mind that Alleria’s not a Void Elf. She ate a Dark Naaru.

Seeing as Velen was willing to kill the literal Hero of Azeroth that was successfully fighting off the Legion to save his son…they could reintroduce Velens wife, Nuuri, as a neutral Man’ari.

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Because she’s not infused with or channeling the Light. She’s literally infused with Void. She cannot channel Light.

Just gonna point up to what I said. You’re comparing being near something to using something.

My point was: Void and Light are opposites and Turalyon and Alleria discuss that.

No. It isn’t. :woman_facepalming:t4:

Learn your lore.

Source? Because I think you just made that up.

First of all, Paladin’s aren’t infused with light. That’s just a Silverhand ritual that happens. Arthas is a Paladin, he Paladins just fine and talks about it.

You can’t say this while making up lore. =P

I’m not sure what that has to do with anything. Players guessing what classes will be in the future isn’t lore.

So you’re saying it wasn’t lore.

I’m not sure how you took me saying “lore still matters because Blizzard explicitly said so during the same interview where they said they’re expanding class/race combos” as “future class/race combos are impossible because something something Warcraft III.”

You’re arguing against a position I don’t hold. So I’m not going to bother to argue against it. I don’t think that lore is the be all and end all, but it definitely matters more than 0.

Let’s elaborate on this Infused with Light thing:

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Please show me where Alleria ever channels the Light. She was a huntress and now is a Void Elf.

Notice how I said:

I never made up lore. What are you even talking about? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

The “infused with Light” thing came from Blizzard’s own website years ago.

I don’t remember when but they removed that description from the Paladin page.

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Nah. Source on explosions. Don’t straw-man me. >.>

I’m not even the one who brought up explosions. And I didn’t strawman anything. You quoted:

And that’s what I answered. But if you want a source on explosions, fine. Page 18, chapter 1 of the Chronicles, which is canon lore:

The Void quickly grew and spread its influence, moving against the flowing waves of Light. The mounting tension between these two opposing yet inseparable energies eventually ignited a series of catastrophic explosions, reupturing the fabric of creation and birthing a new realm into existence.

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This is correct. And I don’t know why it was retconned, since we specifically watch a Paladin become infused in Legion. But regardless, I will always cover my bases and use “infused or channeling,” just so people can’t try to go, “but…!”

Edit: probably to distinguish Lightforged or something. Which, in fact, are infused with the Light. As is Turalyon, I believe.

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Ummm… they are kinda? They have the light dwell in them. They are not remade of the light like lfd, but they do have light energies in innartly in them. This is seen multiple times I lore during paladin anugeration rituals.

Light powers is gifted either through the ritual (it brings them to peak physical strength which allowed Arthas, the guy your talking about, to more easily pick up the silver hand 2-handed hammer to his surprise.

The other paladins gets their powers from other sources of light, blood elves gets it directly from the sunwell after praying to it, turean is granted it from anshe, and zt trolls got it from the king of loa as he also used the light.

She was not wrong…

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I would slate them as being remade by the light.

Like how void elves was basically remade by the void.

Maybe. We kind of have conflicting messages there, so it’s a bit unclear. Most of the introduction says this:

The draenei most committed to their long crusade would undergo a ritual to become Lightforged, infusing their bodies with the very essence of the Holy Light.

The draenei’s most elite warriors followed the naaru Xe’ra aboard the Xenedar to wage war on the Burning Legion. They were infused with the essence of the Holy Light and became Lightforged

But the scenario uses the Forge of Aeons, which doesn’t specifically say it does that, but we do go through the trials it creates and the acceptance afterwards.

I lean towards they are infused with the Light, due to the change to glowing golden eyes. But I may have to do some more digging to see if I can find quotes that can be more specific one way or the other. :slight_smile:

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