No, the author of the addon has tried to make it as easy as possible for anyone without the addon to still be able to get into groups. The addon publishes the group in chat every so often and players who whisper to ask for an invite will still show up on the addon as having applied.
I hate to play this card again but since you guys seem to love pulling this type of stuff out so much:
One of us has achievements to confirm we were actually playing in vanilla, and one of us does not. I know what Iām signing up for, I know what this game is like. Had you bothered to read my posts before, youād see that Iām not even sure I will personally use the addon. Defending its existence does not mean personally using it.
(And, for the record, I understand that you may have actually played in vanilla and if you didnāt, I donāt care, everyone can play. But I verifiably did, so itās a little silly to suggest Iām not cut out for it.)
And I feel - and have these posts you guys make as evidence to support - that you guys campaigning against it just fundamentally do not understand how it works or what its purpose is. You keep arguing that itāll do damage to Classicās community and conveniently ignore the fact that there existed similar (and more automatic) mechanics in vanilla for the majority of its lifetime.
If you have evidence/reasoning to support your feelings that it will do long term damage to hurt the community, Iām all ears. Go ahead and lay it out. But āfeelingā it could happen alone is not and should not be enough to have it banned outright.
A window that displays recent advertisements and has a button to let you send a whisper (that you, not the addon, writes) to the leader of the party so they can consider inviting you is not fundamentally different from the normal chat advertisements, which still exist. It just rearranges the information and prevents it from being spammed out too quickly.
If you have a good reason for why an addon that does just that is damaging, Iām happy to listen.
yep, you had to run to the stones first. Then you would join the rudimentary dungeon finder and hope for a good group. It did not sort class so you could get grouped with 4 rogues or 3 heals and 1 mages.
To be fair, either way I donāt care but, I fail to see why the addon is needed and also fail to see how it creates such a debate. And it isnāt a new debate at all.
If you really wanted to be nitty picky about it, you can argue a few addons were created back then and that there was a few ingame features ingame trying to desserve this kind of service.
Though you could also argue a huge majority of the player base never got accross addons, many never even knew they existed. Many also were against them, either afraid they would be infractions to the terms of service, thought they were tools to cheat or, simply did not care/were not computer savy enough to add them.
So in essence, it was both authentic and inauthentic. I am not surprised at all to see the same crowd and debate today as it was exactly the same back then.
not much making things up, if there is possible ways of automate game play, then it needs to be brokenā¦ isnt exactly a secret its something blizzard doesnt likeā¦
Buddy, I transcribed the conversation Omar and Brian had with Esfand. I know what they said quite well. I also know that they pruned away every feature that they didnāt feel was classic enough.
And youāre definitely making things up. You keep changing your goalpost, and trying to make yourself out as the reasonable one. But anybody can see that youāve gone from disliking ClassicLFG for a reason that turned out to be a lie made up to fool gullible folks, to disliking it for reasons that are demonstrably false, to disliking it because āit ruins the social aspect of the gameā and apparently the only social aspect of the game is standing around in stormwind spamming lfg. Finally, finally youāve changed your tune to āI donāt like automationā. Which, frankly, if you had stated that at the start we wouldnāt be having this conversation. Because itās, at the very least, solid ground for debating.
And then you pulled the āfilthy retailerā card out, because you donāt seem to be able to argue your point on its own merits. You have to try and drag people down to score brownie points with your clique. Now youāre trying to make it sound like Iāve said things that I never have, and if Iāve said āI want this because it automates thingsā youād be bandying that quote around like it were your latest college dormroom conquest.
Perfectly fine so long as Cross-Realm isnāt involved. That way toxic players canāt escape to their shadowy holes with zero consequences for their actions. And good players will be remembered and encountered in the world that they might otherwise have never met.
First off, you know yourself that blizzard changed alot of the orginal API, one of the reasons was to stop botting and automationā¦
Again, if you argue for the version that dont automate the gameplay, then fine, use it, that some of us can tolerateā¦ but the moment you allow it to fully automate a social process in wow, its automation like any other automation, and that is wrongā¦ it dosent matter that your version have that turned off, the problem is, its still possible to do, so it needs to broken so people cant do itā¦ just like blizzard have gone great extent to stop other automationā¦
You keep calling it "myā version. As if Iām the author of the addon. First off, knock it off. Second off, the version that you keep blabbing about doesnāt have it in the first place. You got fooled, bamboozled, outplayed. Thirdly, Iām not a coward that jumps at shadows. I donāt see it as being particularly probable that someone will create a function that hooks into the addon to enable auto-grouping. As thatās simply dumb from a convenience and a gameplay point of view.
it dosent matter if it have it or not, what matters is what the addon can or cant doā¦ and said addon could fully automate social interaction, and thats wrong
And if it can automate social interaction, it needs to be broken so it cant
i reject both of them entirely, and i feel as if it fully breeds and continues the culture of āi pay 15$ i deserve end game contentā and causes a lot more problems than it solves.
Again, no it doesnāt You still have to communicate with the people in your party in order to do things. Why do you hate communicating with your party Aurora?
mhmmm, thats how the addon at moment is set up, are you saying the addon cant do other things, and is locked into absurdum, where no one else could tweak itā¦ we both know the answear to that, and that the problem, the addon have the possiblity to automate social interaction, and like all automation of gameplay, that needs to be broken so it cantā¦
and if said version dont have it, what does it matter to make sure you cant automate gameplay ?