Have fun forming groups on servers with 20k+ players across different layers all spamming chat. So “faithful to Vanilla” lmao
Imagine that, making friends in an MMO to do stuff with instead of pressing buttons to drop right in without communication, such an alien concept indeed.
while we are at it can we please disable all addon I think any addon whatsoever is ruining the classic quality
You have no way of knowing that and neither do I. The majority of people probably didn’t even know it existed yet. These forums, reddit, twitch, and twitter are a tiny portion of the community.
If the addon was not there in 2001 then it does not need to be in classic
make a guild, form a group, adventure, have fun
I know, I honestly think he was the developer. I challenged him on it, and he didn’t deny it. All he said was “Prove it”.
I wasn’t even on a popular realm or playing a popular class and I regularly got groups/made friends lol. People are over exaggerating the effort it took as usual.
From its description, I don’t think vQueue uses the addon communication channel the way ClassicLFG does.
It does more in that you can click buttons to send messages and what not, but even if you disabled the addons ability to do that it could parse chat to create the UI and just show you the name you then have to manually type out.
Yes you are right, these forums are a small portion. But a small sample size can often tell you loads about the total population.
How do you think surveys and polls work?
Would people care as much one way or another if the servers were live? I suspect a lot of this is because people are busy browsing forums instead of playing.
I love to play devil’s-advocate but those people were spouting nonsense.
Very good call people! I’m gaining so much respect for those of you fighting for us! It truly feels Like you care again. Keep up the good work.
PS: feel free to fix retail any time!
We love you all!
hah wow yeah! you might have to talk to people and treat them like humans rather than anonymous bots! i can see where that would make this entire texting generation extremely angry!
It’s a scary new (old) frontier that is about to be (re)released, and people like them make it seem like it’s going to pose insurmountable social challenges. If I facepalm any harder, my hand will go through my head.
Yea and most likely the bnet addon was not made by the game development team but a different 3rd party team within blizz.
Don’t need it to run wow either. So it is indeed an addon.
I know you are probably trolling, but here I go
The addon was programmed in a way that other people with the addon could see what your talents(or at least the majority) were (You couldn’t see other people talents in vanilla). A big part of the social aspect in wow is having to trust them to not lie with their talents (or play well enough to hide the fact that their spec is suboptimal)
It assigned you a role based on that. With this information the addon could automatically form a group with 1 tank 1 healer 3 dps. This wasn’t implemented until late wotlk
While it did parse the chat, it also had the ability to automatically form groups with people that had the addon without using the chat
If the add-on turned out to do things that didn’t exist in classic or was only able to exist because it was using the newer API framework (which to be honest is Blizzard’s own fault because they are using modern framework with old content)
If the add-on could not duplicate something oQueue or Call to Arms did without using newer things that recent add-ons are able to use then that would be completely fair to ban it. Although then you would also need to look at all these quest helpers, paint by numbers quest guides, BossMods, Healingmods, etc… that may be using the newer add-on structure as well.
You can continue to try to do whatever you want. It won’t matter in the end because most people won’t use whatever new addon takes this one’s place so it’ll be largely useless. If one of the addons catches on, Blizz will most likely get rid of it like they did with this one as well.
I never got involved much in this fight. This is because I was almost positive that it would be banned in some way by Blizzard. I wasn’t sure that an LFG addon would be broken after people more knowledgeable than me explained what that would entail. So I’m kind of surprised at this turn of events. Although looking back, maybe I shouldn’t be.
On another, somewhat related note, I have to shake my head at the venom of some of the pro-LFG addon people and wonder, if they were involved in these discussions and at and saw any of the evidence put forth repeatedly, how could any of them be surprised by this?
If you did that I’m not sure what spirit of vanilla it is you believe in, but you clearly have no idea what actual vanilla was like because it was less restrictive in terms of the freedom addons have by a large margin already.
This person, for example.
Ion addressed this directly at Blizzcon last November and I know that video of him talking about it has been posted multiple times. He stated straight up that the powerful addons and macros available back then would not be available this time around. So anyone acting blindsided by this either hasn’t been paying attention or is being disingenuous.
I’ll have the addon installed and parsing chat up until you break it and I have a feeling you’ll fail to really break the main purpose of it anyway as you would have to completely destroy the ability for addons to communicate + parse regular chat channels.
The other thing Ion did at Blizzcon was that he warned that addons that take advantage of the modern social networking capabilities of the modern game may be subject to being looked at. We’ve seen this happen.
In other words, the devs telegraphed this all the way back in November. Ion stated it outright. It’s just that a whole lot of you refused to listen.
I no longer think they have a problem with breaking every automated LFG addon, and I think they can do it without breaking a lot of other functionality that other addons rely on.