Classic WoW shouldnt exist

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I think all classic content should be available… I just think they are doing classic WRONG. Though this thread will probably get buried based of the title alone because god forbid anyone posts an original thought or offer constructive criticism. Anyway why I think classic shouldnt have ever been done?

-It ended… Classic wow is now on TBC pre patch. Can you go back to the original launch build? No… So what do we do here? have a server for each build?

-no link to retail. I dont have any fond memories of vanilla wow. I didnt hate it because obvious I played it and am still around (though not for much longer) But I have no nostalgia for the content, I more miss some of the spells and stuff, the simplicity of the raids and dungeons etc. But I see no point in farming anything if it doesnt also unlock on retail. Why collect mounts and transmog in classic when they dont carry over?

-min maxing, the mythic problem of people only wanting the perfect run. Back in vanilla wow you didnt have as many people just looking to get the quickest most effortless run. As much as people want to hate on LFR and LFD the mythic+ mind set doesnt apply to LFD or LFR as you cant get rejected from those dungeons but mythic+ is no different than trade chat used to be.

I would be in support of Blizzard spending a whole expansions development making World of Warcraft: The caverns of time!

We have this really cool place where you could go back in time and experience events from the past… While it would be complicated as hell we have phasing technology. We have the ability, we have chromie time. Why cant we work these things to allow you to play through every patch build of wow ever, whenever you want? As far as the graphic updates go you could toggle it like diablo2 resurrected, you wanna play wow 1.0 with the new graphic updates? sure thats user end only no harm no foul. How you would make characters work in that space and have the spells and talents function differently… well thats the biggest technical hurdle.

Not sure they are capable of figuring that out since they didnt remove raid mechanics from timewalking which used to rely on spam cleanse when it didnt have a cool down vs the 8 seconds we have now… its possible they could make it where your characters skill set would be different based off where you were in the game. They already have our tool bars fully reset from any changes we make when in torghast. so the ground work has already started in that regard. Though torghast doesnt remember your bar changes session to session.

I just dont see the point to classic wow as it is and that it is going through the patch cycles to the same end point then what? years from now just wipe the servers and reset to the initial build so people can try over?

I view wow classic as diablo seasons. i dont like the idea of losing everything ive gained or the disconnect from my characters. what good is thousands of paragon levels when every 4 months i need to wipe my character? As long as theres no connection between classic and retail whats the point?

Edit: What i mean is I want an expansion where they totally revamp caverns of time. Not only have time walking dungeons but have every past build of wow AKA “Classic” as playable on retail wow but within the caverns of time. It would be a technical challenge but so isnt having to go back and rebuild the old game. This would also fix the problem classic currently has of reaching an end point where you cant go back and play what you missed.

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What’s the point?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$

That’s why it exists.

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I think the ship had sailed on it not existing at this point

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but if that was the point why only now when private servers existed for years? clearly they had money to push out said project and im highly sure technology as well i mean its not like were living in the damn stone ages.

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I keep reading your post an i juts dont get what you want. It sounds like you want to just dabble im classic as a side activity without losing time played or accomplisments on your retail main?

It sounds like you just don’t really care about classic which is fine, but the people who play classic want it to be COMPLETELY separate from retail. Either because they want a nostalgia trip or cause they prefer that type of mmo over retail, warts and all.

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Im fine with it, because its my hope that when classic wrath comes out it does WAY better then retail, and blizzard will maybe see why people enjoyed WoWs past expiations over their current crap.

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it won’t much matter by the time wrath is here especially when the go farther if they do cause anything that can make money will be in each classic eventually. they added boosts for money sure but they also did it knowing people in 2021 wasn’t going to level all the way up sure some do but the majority didn’t. just like wrath will have them and other stuff i’m sure. classic is no different than retail now only thing most people worry about is endgame this ain’t the old tbc lol.

and ya sure people leveled in classic but how many more you think would of played it again or for the first if they didn’t have to. and for anyone not leveling in tbc that wanna play wrath might think about it if you ain’t buying a boost or you will be sitting in empty zones as i do leveling my belf sllowly. at this point in the game idc what they do i had my fill of wow i’m just hoping sometime this yr an actually awesome mmo comes out so i can move on wow is so stale after all these yrs.

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I’m enjoying TBC, much more than Classic actually. Not sure what exactly you want or the point of this thread since it already exists.

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Luckily for you, there will likely be another “crap” x-pack released before Wraith classic…so you can expect at least 3 more years before your hopes would even make a difference

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That’s because that information wasn’t widely available then. We couldn’t run 10,000 iterations of a sim in 2 minutes.

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Classic (TBC) is why WoW (“Retail”) is lacking.

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It exists only because the current Devs cannot create a good expansion to save their lives so they must steal and re-release content created by better developers.

I love TBC, I’m very grateful to play it, but I also wish instead of constantly re-hashing stuff that isn’t theirs that they’d create their own amazing expansion too.

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Sir, this is Activision. It exists because there was money to be made.

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Retail needs 2 new modes added to give us 3 modes of play in total.

  1. Adventurer mode: This is the default of the game. You can talk with and group with players cross faction. You cannot do opposite faction quests nor go into their hubs and cities however. Guilds remain faction specific however communities would have an option at creation to be faction specific or neutral.

  2. War mode: You know what this is.

  3. Timewalking mode: All non latest expansion content scales to you. For dungeons and raids your group will automatically be filled in by AI that will fill the roles left. They will perform mechanics without fail.

With the addition of timewalking mode I would say classic azeroth needs to be ported over to retail and all removed quests over the years need to be readded.

“Finding wrathion”, “moving MOTHER”, Pandaren faction intros, MoP Legendary questline, WoD legendary questline, Legion artifact content, and countless others I have not listed here.

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If memory serves this introduced LFD. If so yeah I see my wrath interests much stronger than TBCC. TBCC I guess to not get carpel tunnel you macro it?

level XX DPS lfg for content_name

all on 1 button push?

thus crap gets old to type out on char water breaks running quests. For me anyway…

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This will never happen. Most people prefer something new over going back and re-living things they already did.

Classic servers are great for those who didn’t get to experience that time though, and to see all the things that were better and worse back then. So they have a place just for that, but the game was far too tedious and has already been optimized to hell and back due to how old it is for it to have any long-term success.

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I’d say yes and no.

With the sub shared it gives players the ability to enjoy both. I’m grateful for that!

I just hope any extra sub money they get from classic helps both games and vice-versa.

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I’m very grateful that classic exists because it stopped the endless amount of complaining that vanilla was better in retail. Simple solution, if you like vanilla better you can just go play it now. Everybody wins

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I think one of the purposes of “Classic: Relive the Grind!” and TBCClassic: “Relive the Grind!” is to break people of being attached to their stuff. I feel like devs are tired of being stuck with an MMORPG to develop, and they’d rather turn it to some other genre and create a new freestanding game every two years with no connection to past expansions.

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Only reason I re-subbed was because it looks like wrath classic will come out, didn’t even bother buying SL, I subbed up just as they announced BC and so far enjoying it much more than what I could stand of short stent I played in BFA, really looking forward to Wrath’s SV hunter, but till then not having the new bliz scaling crap is really nice.