Listen fanboy that writing was on the wall. Sure when your subs are riding an all time high and are then on the massive decline it gets pretty depressing knowing a change of lifestyle is in order cause the players sucked at BFA.
Stop acting like the raids were easy in BFA. They are some of the most technical and mechanically challenging raids the game has seen in a long time.
The dood is just as much of a sellout as blizzard.
Theyâre welcome to make as many âClassic spinoffâsâ as they like so long as they do not disturb actual Classic WoW at all.
I think if anyone is to be trusted is blizzards art department, frankly they are fantastic at what they do.
This game is restricted to certain gameplay elements that can never be introduced again so I think it could be worth a shot.
I would love to see some emerald dream content.
I agree, Will, but as I said I do not trust them on that front. Thatâs why you keep seeing me fighting against these suggestions; Iâm trying to prevent what I feel is a genuine threat.
I cant actually provide first hand knowledge but as I understand it the most technical raids of all time were MoP and WoD⊠(at maximum difficulty).
I did not play either, but thatâs what I was told, apparently Blizzard has actually nerfed things a touch as of Legion / BFA.
The only people who say BFA raids are easy are classic trolls who have never stepped in a mythic plus ![:rofl:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/rofl.png?v=6" ":rofl:")
Iâm not saying what youâre asking for isnât cool. I think it is.
I just donât think itâs a good idea to do it.
M+ is not hard, itâs just a speed run, and even at that not hard at all.
Mythic RAID is hard, and no one denies that. (Previously heroic raid, Previously 25 man raid, Previously, insert maximum difficulty level here because itâs changed like 46 different times)
I wouldnât be caught dead doing Mythic Plus or Keystones or raiding when itâs current⊠except maybe in Classic cos for me that might actually be doable.
Seriously? A 13 right now in BFA is the equivalent of a 19 in legion. You just keep spewing garbage.
ROFL depends on the TIME youâre talking about⊠Early Legion is harder than late legion because of gear inflation, thatâs why âDifficultâ went from 11 to 22 in Legion alone.
To people saying a 40man raid isnât going to happen- private servers have existed since TBC came out in which there are organized guilds, thousands of players, and raids every day of the week. The servers are âBlizz-likeâ and the guilds are extremely competitive- you have to apply to get in, many people are rejected, full resist gear, consumables, etc. A 40 man raid seems insane, I agree, but thereâs plenty on them going on right now on private servers, which are dedicated to being as true to vanilla as possible.
The majority of players and casuals will spend around 6 months leveling up to 60 it can take even years to accomplish some goals for your main, the game is so freaking time consuming and that is the reason why 15 years laters WoW still exists, because it was a f*** success buddy. the best as MMO - RPG and no other stood a chance.
I like BFA and the cinematics the lore etc⊠but TBH today we have WoW-Fortnite, easy cake for many people, you can easily hit from 110-120 in matter of hours with literally no fun, no progress, just waiting for more content because you are stuck content dies so fast geez⊠You can go play and get bored in BFA after 2 weeks (WQ) as many of us did or join classic and start playing a game more hardcore with sense of progression, danger and rewardingâŠ
You will notice that you can no longer mindlessly pull while solo, that your class has identity no question and itâs huge, twice more resources that any class can have in modern WoW, (ironic) if you made it to 60 (dude congrats) community and friends are your main resource, access to all your spells and abilities all the time, progressing every single level, (talents, skills etcâŠ) even a white upgrade feels rewarding for your character, RPG elements all over the game, and the list just goes on and on.
Classic is not a random expansion bro, you like it or not many people will come back and will stay for so long I was there I know that, and blizzard knows it.
You will have free access after August 27 and get your own conclusions once you hit max level in classic. For now you are being so ignorant with no idea or what youâre talking about, peace.
Apparently we are in dramatically different conversations and you have no capacity to read actual words. None of this has at all been about BFA difficulty. What the hell are you talking about?
A game can suck and not be because its not difficult you realize that right? Some of the Barbie games are near impossible, that doesnât make them fun my dude, nor was that the point of the conversation.
The point of the conversation was that you were fact checking people like some kind all knowing genius when you actually had no idea what you were talking about. Asmon specifically said, multiple times, that it wasnât about his subs plummeting, but him not having fun streaming BFA, which was because WoW has been his lifeblood. He tried other games and didnât enjoy them so took some time off to reflect.
None of your post was remotely coherent. Try again. Also Asmonâs YouTube is still up and explains all of this. Fact check yourself my guy. Its easy to find ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
Yeah sorry the BFA and classic WoW love of the masses is as fake as it gets.
If they sucked in BFA⊠classic is not for them. If you cant manage in BFA, classic will eat you alive.
I will play classic when this twitch population abandons it and they will. Its not going anywhere I just cant be bothered with this bs marketing hype thru twitch.
I donât get why it has to be a mindless competition, as if weâre only going to get one and Blizzard is going to shut down the servers for the other. They can co-exist, but the standard MMO player is generally too toxic to consider that. Classic is going to be more of an elitist filled, Twitch chat spamming cesspool than League.
i like this idea.
also consider a 4th spec involving forms. since druids have various forms and as a result, you cant tell by looking how decked out they are in potential pvp scenarios, i think the other classes should have at least one form based on some race or npc ingame that we havent been able to play because creating 1-max level armor for them would be a huge time sink. example:
dryad and keeper of the glade form (female or male determines which) for druids under the 4th druid spec of fae. faery magic school added.
lich or banshee form (male or female determines which) for warlocks under the 4th spec of necromancer. specializes in undead valâkyre pets so as not to step on the toes of dks.
wizard form for mages. 4th spec is wizardry which gives the mage access to time based buffs for their other spell schools. the form looks like a monk in crossed legged floating position, similar to zen flight but without the flight part. think dr. strange.
ethereal form for rogues. just have to make a female version but they dont have to worry about armor since its a form, like if you ate savory deviant delight or noggenfogger elixir.
maybe ogre/vrykul form for warriors.
something like tyrael form from diablo, for paladins.
etc
Yeah i know an ambulance chaser when i see one.
Also i know a fish when i see one you are just hook, line and sinker. Glad you kerp paying his bills?
Having read the previous comments with interest, will put in my 2 cents worth (no trolling please).
Classic Wow will be huge, will it be huge for a really long time, I donât think so, right now the old vanilla players want it back, and the newer players want to try it, but not only has the game changed, the player base has also changed, many players want more for less and classic is about less for more. I believe that player numbers in classic will drop starting a few months in and servers will become known for good or bad attitude and we can each go and play the classic we want.
Please no. Did we really wait 13 years for Vanilla just the have it destroyed again?
TBC and Wrath optional servers fine. But leave Vanilla Classic alone.