Classic WoW has exceeded all expectations

Anyone who hates totally optional game features is not serious, because they are essentially complaining about other people having fun. Therefore their complaints can be discarded without a second thought.

If affects your gameplay in absolutely no way whatsoever if someone wants to pay 10g to change their hairstyle, or if someone wants to make their weapon look different.

Barber shop has been in the game since WOTLK I think, I’ve never been to it once in that time. Don’t see the point, and don’t care whatsoever that it exists.

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Churn is part of every MMO, the minute it goes online the clock starts ticking. Classic isn’t immune to that. Even Vanilla started dropping subs the first month, you just didn’t see it because the incoming was greater than the outgoing.

Id almost bet to get that original 8 mil by the end of Vanilla, WoW probably went through 16-20 million players.

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well said. totally agree. my list of things that killed it for me is:
-aoe tanking, death of cc in 5man.
-generally ‘normalized’ class balancing making all classes being able to do everything made all class lost its uniqueness.
-flying, i have enjoyed it, but seeing how it destroyed player interaction i wish we did not have it.
-cross realm LFG, normal LFG/LF-raid.

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This i can agree…last month i can see lots of ppl asking for group even till late nights. Now lfg seems kinda empty and only a hand of ppl asking for grps for dungeon.

Can’t really compare vanilla with classic as vanilla gain more player cause of is a new game and hype while classic is by nostalgic and hype. is two different thing. the ppl demographic of nostalgic is also different from 2004 demographic. I doubt classic have reach the number like vanilla.

You totally missed my point. My point was that all MMO’S have churn from the start, Classic is no different.

I didn’t say anything about Classic ever reaching the numbers of Vanilla.

I don’t think it has exceeded all expectations. I think the number of retail players sticking around is lower than anticipated. But this is undoubtedly offset by the number of returning players who probably did not take part in any sort of market research.

This is the company that thinks they know what you’re thinking. Sometimes mind-reading misses the mark by a long shot.

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I think they open classic for people get back to retail , not the other way around, hence retail sub is required to play classic people are using wow token

There is no “retail sub” vs “classic sub” distinction.

I think they accelerated development of classic when it became clear how badly BfA was being rejected by the playerbase, after all the research they did on how to manipulate people into playing longer by artificially increasing tedium resulted in so many people getting bored and quitting.

I think they were expecting that Classic would fill the content gaps they had planned in BfA.

But make no mistake, they collect data and are fully aware of how many people are spending their time doing which content in which game. They know how many people play retail but have never downloaded classic. And they know how many people are playing classic but have not bought BfA.

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Non-max level character posting about how much they hate a game. So weird.

I see so many posts like this where someone is getting sick of the classic pace and decides to post something bashing the alternative to make themselves feel better.

I have a priest that is 4/8 prophecy, truefaith, benediction, epic mount, and my entire group of friends just raid logs now and we’re back playing retail, and most hadn’t played in >5 years. Our retail guild has more people online on non-raid nights not.

On EU, three weeks ago, there were only a handful of realms without queues, some of them had queues that were so large they consisted of multiple layers worth of players. Now there are very rarely any queues at all.

P2 will be worse. I literally just asked in trade chat if people knew city raids would be impossible in the second phase without killing citizens and racking up DHKs. Almost no one knew what I was talking about, it started a crap storm, people were angry that the big second phase is going to be flight path camping in EPL, Burning Steppes, and SIlithus. Not romantic faction wars in cities across azeroth.

Don’t count your chickens before they hatch, my guy.

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That’s why some of us planned ahead and didn’t roll on a pvp server. Been there done that.

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Stats show you are in the vast, vast vast minority.

Remember, most of the people in this thread who get off on bashing retail are they same people that likely posted, “PvP is half the game!!!”

:slightly_smiling_face:

We all knew the massive launch crowds would wander off, and they have – though not before Blizzard essentially doubled its realm list; that was interesting.

One big difference is how people generally seem to feel about the game. I remember that uneasiness early on in Cataclysm and Warlords, the grumbles in chat, and then each exodus. That’s not happening here, and I imagine it’s because players have and will continue to have reasons to stay.

It shouldn’t be a surprise, but such basic interactions like working out interest in a quest or dungeon with another person, getting invested in the group succeeding, and spending time traveling to the site – sometimes together if it’s a PVP realm – creates a bond, even if it only lasts one session, but more importantly creates a memory.

And that’s apart from quests designed as much to provide an adventure as XP, and WPVP thrills and chicanery, which I’d say is the ingredient that pulls it all together.

yes sure asmongold clone.

People aren’t complaining, they are just leaving. It isn’t like complaining to blizzard is going to result in changes in this version.

I don’t know I find so far 45-60 is easier than 10-25 (at 55). I really hated that 10-20 period. I think there is another section in there that is terrible bad as well.

Nothing weird about it. You spend a lot of time getting to 60… unless you one of them special people who started at 60. So yea they could have an opinion at the game as they level.

Uh, did this post not say it exceeded all expectations and liked it? You reading right?? Not just touching on context trigger words?

Must’ve been crumpet and tea time.

Literally eh? You one of ‘those’ guys.

Not sure what chickens I was counting, but I see one bad egg already.

I’m constantly seeing lfg flooded with people lfm for low level dungeons. One would think the low level population would be non existent, sure some are alts and rerolls but I’m willing to bet many are either new or returning players that waited for the hoopla in low level zones to die down.

Layering had nothing to do with population totals. The layers were put there to keep zones that were highly concentrated playable. With transfers and population spread across multiple zones several layers aren’t needed at all.

I really love this game? expansion? whatever, wow classic exceeded 100% my expectations so far… Im learning all about this game, I can feel the RPG ascpect so far, every class are special for determinates things, all classes are necesary for do things, is hard to choice just one class, I have Priest Holy as a main character, and two alts, Priest Shadow for pvp/bg’s and Mage for feel AOE farm. wow classic is my last game, I wanna play this game the rest of my life.

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