"Classic will be hard"

did you try to do zul lfr alliance side without any priests? in lfr you can be totally screwed by the random nature of things. it’s not like horde where half the people in your raid are belves.

Honestly…it can be fun! I am running content with kids. Its really cool watching them transition from Roblox and minecraft lol

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I don’t recall how many priests we had or didn’t have in my LFR kills. I only did it a few times on this character because I wanted transmog stuff.

you’ll wipe over and over and over again if no one can mass dispel those mobs that fear you. without a priest people just leave until one shows up. and then you pray they have the sense to use it.

Bonus objectives are very easy and take no time at all to do. WoD leveling is pretty much the same for every single spec. Collect some treasures along the way and before you know it you’ll be in the Broken Isles speed leveling via invasions. :cow:

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i’m talking about questing. why do you guys do treasures if you want a challenge which is why you prefer classic to retail? it makes zero sense to me.\

edit: i don’t do the legion invasions either. i quest. it’s more fun. and that’s the point of a game, not efficiency.

Pre-Classic, I speed leveled because leveling in Retail is about as boring as it gets. Giant snoozefest. There’s no challenge, even if you solo quest everything.

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why even bother to play then? that’s like those guys that hit 60 in classic in a week. got pre raid BiS. raided. and then cried there was nothing to do. maybe if you don’t rush things you won’t make yourself bored.

Never said any of it were hard lol. Well not yet still have to do the rest when they push them out.

I am giving my opinion on difficulty level.

Did I ever say MC was harder than heroic raid? Nah I put it at slightly above normal.
Reason trash is slightly harder than normal retail raid. The bosses are similar or slightly below. Retail has more mechanics but classes have more abilities. I am not going to say it’s easier than LFR because then you will have QQ more threads when ppl just randomly throw a group together, with no communication, or knowing nothing expect to clear it. You can watch videos ppl doing it wipe wipe wipe. Heck man I never new ZF could take 6+ hours to complete but watched a YouTube vid and was lol.

Normal to me is not hard but I am trying to give ppl that never did classic a gadge instead of watching mythic raiders saying it’s easy. It is easy but compared to what?

Average players pay for runs in mythic +. Me and you know that. I charged 50k to 200k gold depending on + level. I am thinking of charging runs in BRD/scholo/UBRS/strat as my team 3man to 4manning UBRS it caring one or two players.

You forget WPvP is part of the game. Of course players choose just like war mode. Don’t give a false sense it’s like war mode lol. You going to make ppl nerd rage.

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I don’t play Retail anymore. All of my WoW time is dedicated to playing Classic. :cow:

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dying while leveling?..yep.dying in a dungeon?..yep.dying in a raid?..yep.

if the game was easy people wouldnt be dying in every aspect of it…lol.

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did you rush to 60 too?

No. It took me just over 12 days /played, but admittedly a good 25% of that was AFKing. I quested in every single zone I could, and had a blast doing so. Since the zones in Classic don’t change their level dynamically, it means that if you do want a challenge, you can always head on out to a higher-level zone. Or not. Some quests are challenging to solo, even if they’re not elite (I’m talking about you, escort quests)!

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Game is easy, some of the players just have thick skulls.

How people wipe on lucifron is beyond me. Half the raid just needs to dispel and de-curse as he is a total pushover if you aren’t a moron. The trash packs in MC are harder than 7/10 of the bosses.

Almost 2 years into the game and 2% of the population had cleared the final raid Tier. You haven’t met the ‘guild killer’ yet and well, he’s going to be VERY well-fed. MC was never hard, it more that 14 were drunk, 17 were stoned and 4 were trying to get down eachothers pants in most raids during vanilla MC. Fact. :slight_smile:

you died levliing to mobs?have you died in a dungeon?if the game was wasy you wouldnt die.

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Never died in questing in retail.

Sorry you find retail a challenging experience.

Only thing that was a challenge to me was above +15 mythic and mythic raiding but the gear was reset every few months.

99% of the content is beyond easy in my opinion. I don’t think you can die in quest or a world boss in retail. Heroic raid it might last a week. I find classic fun and I can die to many things.

I can solo +5 mythic dungeons. I am sorry.

I give dungeons in classic +5 mythic but I cannot solo like how I can in retail.
I give it a +5 because it’s difficult but not. Anyone should be able to clear them giving time.

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Im sure Rag being down within the first week of people hitting high 50s and 60 has NOTHING to do with the content being out for the last 15 years. Nothing to do with people playing private servers for the last 12-14 years repeating the same content. Over…and over…and over…and over… Week after week after month after month after year after year. Yeah its not like the MAJORITY of the people clearing content are people who have been doing it for over a decade and know exactly how the fights go. What the best raid compositions are exactly what each boss does what each class is responsible for.

I think if you wanted a fair comparison youd have to take 40 people who have NEVER played WoW classic and have them level together and attempt to do MC together with little information on what the bosses do. (Oh and GL to them finding the item to douse the runes in MC to summon rag providing they get that far) THEEEEEEEEN i can say its a fair comparison if wow classic is easier than retail

show me your retail toon that you were doing mythic raids and +15s on then. it will take a few seconds to switch so i can see your achievements. :slight_smile:

Yeah good stuff man! I think classic has been easy for me, someone who never thought I’d be 60 prot war lol! Even with Wpvp now up to its max (probably going to die down tomorrow).

I do think classic is easier then retail, Classic is just more time consuming.

The week before classic dropped some egg head was slamming me on how I’ll never touch molten core since I didn’t mythic raid :joy:.

I think classic and retail offer different things to 2 different type of gamers.

It’s really hard and kinda dumb to compare both games, yeah it’s the same game at its roots. But lots has changed, lot has become easier and less inconvenient.

A lot of retail changes imo just isolated me as a gamer more, I want to interact with people I want to jump into voice chat and have a good ol time, talk strats. Laugh when strats fall through lol!

Wpvp has a nice counter, just go in together and you won’t be bothered. Me and my raid team fly to redridge and ride on out to BRM sticking close together:). Dungeon groups I try to just naked run on in or if my group is still IF then just group up.