"Classic will be hard"

Re-read what I said. The part about you rerolling over and over, I said I believed.

Disagree about the Classic community being worse than retail’s. Retail has no community.

dude has not even had a 60 yet and is talking about how much harder classic is than retail. as a pally you can literally face tank 4 mobs autoattacking while using all your mana to heal yourself in classic. can’t do that on a retail pally.

This is a joke, right?

In retail you can pull an entire dungeon’s trash mobs and live. In fact usually that’s the fastest way to do things. Are we playing the same game???

i’m talking about leveling. do you know what greens are? do you know that when you’re a low level you’re not in full epics with all of your talents? you’re just arguing to argue at this point. the difference is i’ve had a 60 in vanilla but you never have.

Do you know what heirlooms are?

Doubt.

Haven’t you been in this conversation before? I know I have been in it with you before. Certain aspects of both are harder than the other.

There are more mechanics in retail yeah, but I’d say classic deadmines is harder than any lfr. You legit have to try to fail to actually not succeed in lfr. Its designed to be completed even if half the raid is afk.

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did i say i had an epic mount and that i was raiding and rank 14 or anything? i was awful in vanilla (and spare me with telling me i am now too) but it wasn’t hard to grind mobs. that’s all classic leveling really is.

Yeah I don’t ever remember it being hard just takes longer for accomplishing things.

there are times where you literally have no quests to do and have to grind mobs. it’s actually easier and quicker to level grinding green mobs than it is to quest in an appropriate zone. but do people who didn’t play vanilla even know this without reading a guide about it?

You an editor? Succinctly said :cocktail:

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And all retail leveling is, is following the arrows while doing quests. Mobs literally die in 2 or 3 button presses. That is not the case in Classic. I’m not saying Classic is hard, I’m saying that leveling in retail is braindead easy and far easier than Classic.

LOL, 15 years after the game was first released? Haha. When Vanilla first came out and there was no Icy Veins, no YouTube videos, no online guides, some of the dungeons and bosses were hard to figure out. But 15 years after the release with all the resources available? Even if you’re new to WOW, some things may be challenging as you learn the game, but Nah, Classic is not hard, just repetitive at times and kinda boring.

play a shadow priest in retail and don’t switch specs at all once you ding 10 and tell me how WoD leveling works out for you.

You typically don’t have those your first time through, and if we’re at the point we’re having to parse what level of difficulty exists at some arbitrary sub-max level in some random set of gear to establish whether a Retail Guardian Druid or a Classic Feral Druid has it harder, or any other silly comparison, it just isn’t worth bothering.

Classic is simply easier difficulty with clunkier controls. That’s it.

WoD leveling? You mean going around and collecting treasure chests while doing the bonus objectives? Has not been hard on any class I’ve ever leveled, so I’m not sure why Shadow Priest would be any different.

no, i’m talking about questing. why would you collect treasures to level? what the heck?

Because it’s the fastest way to level 90-98.

I’m starting to think you don’t actually play WoW. Either retail or classic.

check my achievements. i don’t have WoD flight. do you have any idea how much time i’d waste trying to do treasures? you can also see i have legion and bfa flight. there was no reason to leave your garrison in WoD if you didn’t raid. but WQ makes it important to have flight. which is why i have the newest two.

Leveling in retail is pretty damn easy. The game holds your hand the entire way. I just recently got my rogue alt up to 120 with very little time or effort spent. I didn’t have to talk to a single person while doing it either. It was actually very sad compared to my experience leveling my rogue to 60 in classic. It took way longer, it required much more effort, and there were a lot of times where I needed to group up with other people to get certain quests done.

That being said, high end dungeon and raid content in retail is harder, but that’s just mythic level stuff. Normal and heroic dungeons/raids are easier or on par with what we have in vanilla. The mechanics are more complicated, but we also have years of experience to draw from compared to the very little experience we had in vanilla raids. I would say that classic MC is still more difficult than the LFR version of the current retail raid tier. Both are really easy, but there’s still a chance for failure in MC that isn’t really present in LFR unless everyone in your group is just leeching while being afk.

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