Classic TBC

[Eidolona-grobbulus]

@Nicholaes-stalagg

Which basically says to me: “TBC seems like the better option, we just want to make sure people really want it”

Honestly Classic + shouldn’t even be on the table.

@Kaivax

[Q: Considering the nature of WoW classic and why people love it, would other tweaks to things that the vanilla community dislike be on the table? Examples: No LFG in Wrath, undoing some blatant, unneeded homogenization in patches, or possibly an ilvl squish in TBC and Wrath so that old content is not marginalized? ]

A: We’re looking into what would be required to support BC and WotLK should we decide to go that route. The guiding principle for WoW Classic was staying faithful to the original game.

It’s less clear what our direction should be with BC and WotLK. As you point out, it is likely that some features of these expansions will not be universally embraced by the Classic community. We’ll be following player progression and sentiment to help guide us in our next steps.

It’s definitely something on their table they are considering.

[Lucavitha-moon-guard]

Classic+ is such a nonsense goal that wreaks of utter hipsterism; It is insisting that Blizz find people who can code new content for the game that stays in the spirit of wow and doesn’t change anything but offers horizontal upgrades and no quality of life upgrades and a whole bunch of othe gobbeldegook that nobody can actually agree on.

Further, it ignores that Retail is where the majority of the development funds for Blizz need to be spent.

[Nicholaes-stalagg]

Yup. the statement “Keep it in the spirit of vanilla” while also “providing horizontal progression with no quality of life upgrades” is literally impossible. Because offering new content with nothing really ‘new’ to strive for outside of just doing it is already not in the spirit of vanilla. That, or it’s at the very least a complete waste of time.

So they want new raids, with no new gear, or if that gear is new then they have to keep it worse than other tiers, and new zones with quests that don’t offer anything new that would alter someone’s leveling experience or gold farming experience so just empty worthless zones? It doesn’t make any sense and it honestly needs to just be forgot about.

[Holymirax-ashkandi]

I dont think a lot of the classic+ crowd cares about the spirit of vanilla based on stuff they have asked for…

[Eidolona-grobbulus]

I’m hoping the success of Classic makes them release World of Warcraft+.

After 15 years of releasing content and seeing the general result of features/new things they added, they can move forward to start over from Vanilla, releasing the expansions tweaked with the damaging features removed, or even finding a stopping point and making new expansions branching from that point of the story.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[Arinowene-bloodsail-buccaneers]

I really enjoy Classic WoW without the expansions but since day 1 I keep thinking of when I started in TBC. I so badly want to experience TBC once again after classic.

I’m slightly worried WoW wouldn’t do TBC because of splitting the game into 3 instead of 2. Can anyone give me a reality check on the idea of Classic TBC? Do you assume they will do it? Do you think they won’t do it?

I want to go to Outlands again D: I really hope that I get to bring my characters from Classic WoW to a seperate server for Burning Crusade. I hope it happens. I really want this

Based on what they’ve said, I think it’s substantially more likely that they will release BC servers than that they won’t.

[Nicholaes-stalagg]

Well what you linked isn’t talking about classic + it’s talking about tweaking other expansions.

Which honestly, I’m in full support of. TBC can NOT stay in a state where the token vendor from sunwell stays available. This literally invalidates the majority of tbc raiding. Plus is got rid of attunements

As for wotlk, the lfd tool also needs to go imo. It was fun when it came out first but it obviously turned into one of the worst decisions made. Christ even private servers turn that junk off in 3.3.5 servers.

Tbc and wrath also, imo, needs to find a sweet spot in terms of class balance patches because there were some extremely broken junk during the course of their life times. (Although I do believe dks should be released like they actually were back then just so people can understand what we were talking about when we said they were the most OP thing this game has ever seen )

[Arinowene-bloodsail-buccaneers]

So they want new raids, with no new gear, or if that gear is new then they have to keep it worse than other tiers, and new zones with quests that don’t offer anything new that would alter someone’s leveling experience or gold farming experience so just empty worthless zones?

They want magic, is what they want. The premise behind Classic+ is that Blizzard can flip a switch and, somehow, this time when they make changes to the basic game, only include ones the person calling for Classic+ is happy with, not the ones that stop them from wanting to play Modern. Sometimes they mention specific things for Blizzard to leave out (“no flying” and “no Outland” are common), but as far as what Blizzard would be putting in…nothing but magic.

[Lucavitha-moon-guard]

The issue is that different people argue about what constitutes a damaging feature.

Like, LFD was something that was praised by all but the most self absorbed DPS when it went live, and the only real flaw it had was that it ballooned from battlegroups (about 5 servers) to the whole bloody region.

Or Weapon proficiencies: I hate the stupid thing since it actively discourages me from switching weapons for fear of my ability to actually make contact with the enemy going through the floor until I’ve spent an hour waving my sword about like an idiot at the house cat. But there are people who claim that this insipid mechanic is somehow integral to the wow expierience.

Or how about when they got rid of ammo and mana for hunters? Both were straight improvements for players since it reduced the mechanics that hunters had to juggle as well as making them less reviled for their eclectic gear rolling, but try telling that to folks in classic right now.