♻ Classic "Restart" after Naxxramas, and F R E S H Servers

Sure.

What I post dont mattter.

Its the community that matters. Yes they can choose to follow revenue models blindly. Yes they can release tbc.
Yes they can release wrath.

So what happens when both runs its course? Can its sustain triumph that of wow classic?

Or will wow classic be still popular and in demand still as a meuseum piece that people will stilll enjoy and will be the main legacy piece of wow that generates more likeability and revenue.

Have your own opinion for sure. But dont forget. Milking your players for revnue for the short term goal can result in a very nasty backlash. Especially if you are touching something that is close to over 4 million players’s heart that span back to 2008.

Remember a certain hearthstone competitive player?

None of these things are happening.

Bro chill I’m level 48 lol…

How do you get that number 4 million? I played vanilla within a couple of months of it’s release. Am I one of the 4 million? I don’t like retail, I think they messed up the game. I quit playing retail 5 months ago, before I knew classic was coming out. I’m playing exclusively classic now. Am I one of the 4 million? Because I have different opinions than you. It’s presumptuous to assume you know the minds of 4 million people.

How do I know? I don’t. That was a logical inference from launch if we look at the number of servers released and the queue times.

Can it be 1 million? 2 million? Or even 7 million? Maybe. I don’t know. Just a logical guess. But critical and analytical thinking would put it in the range of millions.

I dont know what is going on in your mind.

I don’t know your preference.

I don’t know your opinions.

I don’t know the preference of 4 million people.

I do know that there was overwhelming demand for WoW classic.

I do know that new server growth for wow classic was more than 400% since launch in totality.

I do know that Blizzard is generating over millions in terms of revenue just by having WoW classic.

I do know wow classic was more popular than TBC or WRATH on emulstors and P. Server scenes.

I do know wow classic was launched on 27th August 2019. Not TBC, not Wotlk.

I do know that there is a considerably large number of people on this forums and in others that have expressed interest for wow classic to stay wow classic - an.d I’m one of them.

#NoChanges

I disagree, having leveled like maybe 10 characters on my main server on retail over the years, classics much slower difficult paces is really taking it out of me to level just 1 character.

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Overwhelming is a subjective term. What percent of vanilla wow players were making that demand? I don’t know. Neither do you.

How do you know that? I’ve seen no numbers. 400% increase from what base number?

How do you know that? I’ve seen no numbers.

What percent of vanilla wow players moved to p-servers? What was the total pop of all p-servers? Did it increase, decrease or maintain the pop over the years?

I agree that here no changes seems to be the prevailing belief. I favor no changes to classic. Except that I would like to see BC and wrath released. There seems to be a large percent of the people here who hold that opinion. I’m ok with you having a stand alone classic server though.

Before I made the claims you’re making I’d want to know the answers to those questions. If I didn’t know the answers I wouldn’t make the claims.

So slapping TBC on top of Classic, already? No, thank you.

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Not on top of, on separate servers, i would rather they not kill classic for those who want to stay there.

How would they get the “higher level characters” then? If we’re having higher level characters going into TBC…how is that going to happen?

Transfers or copies, however they decide to do it. Transfer you classic character to start in TBC, only way to do it without killing the Classic server.

Well, we haven’t had the option to transfer to copy our Retail Characters over to Classic (granted their levels are higher, except lower level ones, but a “Copy” could be a dumb down version), option, yet…

I doubt that most people feel that way. I have about 20 alts. 5 I leveled up through vanilla to BfA. I’ll replay the game with classic and a few alts through wrath. But that will be it for me. No more replays. I’m done then. Just like I was eventually done with Morrowind, or diablo II, or Diablo III.

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And why would we? Or do you think I mean copying retail to Classic?

No i mean copying Classic to TBC to mimic moving from Vanilla to TBC without moving the servers themselves.

  1. Going to happen, no logical reason why it wouldn’t. They’ll make TBC servers and Classic servers so people can choose (again, no logical reason not to).
  2. Not going to happen on any scale. Maybe a few, but that’s it. Releasing TBC will split the pop and even if you consider #3 (see below), new servers are going to make the pop split issue worse.
  3. Has to happen to alleviate the TBC server pop loss. They won’t have a choice.

No, IK what you said. And perhaps what I said isn’t the point of Classic, and it should stay that way but still we don’t have that option to copy any of our Retail Characters (at least their physical appearance, to a level 1, for Classic).

That would be kind of useless though, you can just create a level 1 character that looks how you want.

I realized after I typed it out that it was kind of dumb, but it is what it is. We shall see, what Blizz decides.

They just should merge the servers and allow people to play Vanilla, but also create new servers for Classic+. Even though I believe TBC was WoW at its prime, I don’t want to play it again and then WoTLK.

After 2 years there should be exactly 2 options available to people:

  1. Wipe and start over on a FRESH vanilla realm.

  2. Permanently and irreparably move your character to a tbc server…

And frankly, given the extreme population prediction problems #2 poses, it might be more likely that any hypothetical tbc servers remain 100% separated from classic-vanila servers, with no option to transfer…

Anyone advocating for inauthentic servers where people are handed unlimited resources to “game genie” their way through progression need to get their heads examined, or go back to bfa with that entitlement handout/hand holding garbage. If you can’t get to the content in the authentic time period, you don’t deserve to be there. Not to mention the fact that breaking the progression wheel breaks the entire design of the game (and even the overall genre), and it’d be nearly impossible to sustain long term without in such a case.

I get it, potentially losing your character will suck, but in the ends it’s a necessary sacrifices for the overall longevity of the game.