It’s just fun to have a situation where everyone is on the same playing field. It was very cool leveling up on launch where almost no one had a mount for weeks, to watch the economy grow etc. Rare epic drops were server wide news.
I don’t advocate for server wipes, but offering fresh servers or a unique type of server that is wiped periodically for people opt into.
I don’t understand the “classic” community sometimes. People get haughty about “zoomers” and “not wanting to experiencethe game” then call people that enjoy leveling up new characters “lunatics”
P server might not represent the entire population but it is a good estimate.
Logic thinking would say Blizzard will not have launched wow classic without having a good estimate of the P. Server popularion and inferring and analyzing how they could switch them over to blizzard subs or gain new classic subs.
Any numbeR to shoW for TBC?
Also. People who wanted to play WoW back then had no choice but to move on to TBC because that was the only way not to get left behind in terms of gear.
That should not happen to this version of wow classic. It should stay wow classic and remain that way.
I completely agree with this. There’s a lot of “arguing from silence and supposition” going on here. No-one knows the numbers. The only people onboard from the beginning were the pserver players, a bunch of streamers and potentially their followers, and other core players who signed the petition. Those numbers are known.
You want BC? I have a better alternative for you. Battle for Azeroth and retail.
Go back to the character selection screen. Select your most beloved level 60 WoW character. Hit “Delete”.
There! Now you get to experience that fresh feeling…New server, New character, New friends, and overall a New adventure from level one without affecting or bringing inconvenience to the other 4 million of us.
You want BC? Go to retail instead. Expansions are changes and we want #NoChanges.
We do not need toxic #FreshCucks like yourself staining the original game experience. Crawl back to Northdale or whatever hole that spawned you.
Any estimates I’ve seen lead me to believe that the majority of classic players never played on p-servers. So your references to p- server behavior aren’t relevant. Do you have different numbers? Perhaps that’s why Blizzard’s estimates for classic population were so far off. They thought they were releasing classic for mostly the p-server population.
What you want or what I want is immaterial. If the population doesn’t fall I’m confident that blizz will release BC. Probably on separate servers. Then we’ll see how many want to move on and how many want to continue with classic.
Go back to a private server if you want a FRESH start.
You wanna try a Paladin, roll an alt. Classic has so much replay ability that you can level up multiple classes without needing a new server. You can also twink your low levels.
lol, you think I and many others didn’t do that already? I had a horde server and an alliance server because I had too many alts to have them all on one server. I had 2 horde alts at level cap and a bunch of alts at different levels when bc came out. I deleted all the alliance alts and started them again on a different server. By the time wrath came out I had the two horde and two alliance at level cap plus at least a dozen others scattered around at different levels.
P server is not an absolute figure of those who wants to play classic. This is true.
It is a sample size, and an estimate. Even for a sample size, this particular number is exceptionally high. Private servers like Nostalrius and lights hope do release their server population data, and if this number is just a sample of the population, imagine how large the actual population who want to play classic could actually be.
I wouldnt go so far ad to say what we want or dont want. Just several moons ago, Blizzard revoked a certain Hearthstone’s competitive player ban due to widespread and unanimous unhappiness across all four gaming communities spanning from WoW to hearthstone.
It is this unanimity from the wow classic community I am a part of, where I would like to be an active voice with other wow clasic fans in telling Blizzard not to release TBC and not allow people to copy characters over because it defeats the purpose of releasing WoW classic in the first place.
Again, looking at the facts WoW classic was released first, not TBC, not WOTLK.
If demand for those 2 far surpassed classic, why would they even bother releasing classic? Why not start with the other 2?
Wow classic served as a foundation for the game to be built, but they just needed to use existing game files from tbc or wotlk instead of releasing wow classic.
/sigh Look sample size is not the only criterion that determines how well the information from the sample can be used to extrapolate to the larger population. The sample must also be a similar balance relative to the larger population. It must have about the same percentage of men and women, racial balance, age balance etc as the larger population. That’s why most internet polls are so flawed no matter how large the sample size. They’re either a poll of mostly liberals or mostly conservatives or mostly men or some other extreme imbalance. They’re not a representative sample and cannot be used to say anything about the larger population.
Those who play on p-servers are a self selected sample with no controls to assure they are representative of the whole. In fact they are clearly not representative because the vast majority of people who played wow never played on a p-server.
You need to take a course on statistics and statistical analysis. I’m sure your local community college offers one.
There is clearly not unanimity among those who play classic. The arguments here show that. When the subject comes on my server’s chat channels most who respond want BC and wrath released but no one seems to want cata. Another self selected sample here and there so I can’t use it to estimate how many might want one or the other, like you constantly try to do. But it does indicate that there is a large disagreement.
The quests, dungeons, and zones of BC are still mostly there as it was when it was current. Vanilla zones, dungeons, and quests had a huge overhaul in Cata that changed everything and removed a lot of stuff, creating a reason for classic servers
You do understand the more servers you put out, the less and less players you have to play with because the population will be more divided among the different server types to play on.
Yes, of course. No matter what blizz decides to do next some people will quit and server populations will go down. We all have our opinions as to what will maintain the most amount of subs. And of course each of us wants it to be done in a certain way. By an amazing coincidence each of us believes that what we want is also the best was to maintain the most players.
You can do all of this, on the same servers, without ruining/losing most of the classic experience and without dividing the community by creating new servers.
Will people whine and leave? Always, no matter what Blizz does. Will new people come to enjoy the expanded content? Oh hell yes.
Good for you. I want Wrath. I’m fine with you keeping your precious Classic, but don’t run around screeching that other people shouldn’t get TBC or Wrath. Retail is not TBC or Wrath.
People in here aren’t asking for you to give up your special game. They just want their own special game.