No. Just no. Can you just stop trying to change the game and enjoy it?
There’s no unanimity to be spoken of in the Classic community, sorry.
Or you could… get over yourself, accept other people like different things than you, and not (futilely) try to break others’ sources of enjoyment just because you got yours.
Just how selfish can a person get?
I adore Classic and was one of the many people screaming for it for a long time. Not in the forums, just in life. Now that its here I’m happy as can be. I’d be happy if we got WotLK and or TBC or not. I’m enjoying what we have.
All of you #nochanges people have nothing to stand on. The game is already changed by definition of being a classic skin bolted onto modern engines. You’re also completely ignorant of your own privilege here. You got your game and are demanding NO ONE else can get their own joy. This is the epitome of all negative behavior on this forum. Please, realize and empathize. Otherwise, the level of sociopathic behavior makes me fear for your future actions and choices.
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You know what’s selfish? Doing nothing to get a 15 year old game on the table, and quite likely ridiculing attempts to do so, and then when against hope the game arrives due to the continued persistence of a core group, jumping all over it and demanding changes to it like a house-sitting bully.
There are a few things to call that, most of them superlatives, but “selfish” will do.
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I don’t think merging servers would ever work well so releasing new servers wouldn’t make any sense.
The only reason I am developing my characters on classic are because I might be able to transfer them over to BC which is the expansion I actually want to play.
There is no advantage to you to try to force people into just playing classic or else. People who are bored will just quit playing and you will be no farther ahead and blizzard will lose money.
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BC? Yes please. BC/Wrath was the very pinnacle of the game. If I were a betting person I would bet BC more than doubled subs. Class diversity had not yet homogenized things but we got qol things. Best expansion to date imo.
Are you talking about me here, or someone else? Because if that’s a direct reply about me, I think you need to go back and slowly reread what I said. Think you missed a few crucial points.
You’re berating someone for wanting to keep Classic at Vanilla when that was whole premise of Classic in the first place. Then in an intensely ironic twist call him selfish for doing so.
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Classic already isn’t vanilla. It had no shot at being vanilla the second they decided to use the Legion client and modern server code instead of the original client and server code.
Man, how many times does this have to be answered. There is no way they could use the original client and server code, for a thousand reasons that have to do with security, changes in hardware, changes in the internet, and changes in the way data is used. Have you watched the video from Blizzcon? They go into depth about all this.
To say that “not using original client and server code” means it’s “no longer Vanilla” is either ignorant or disingenuous. Classic is an as authentic as possible reproduction of Vanilla. That’s a reason to avoid as many changes as possible, not add more on because “muh QoL”.
You’re arguing that you can update the original Doom’s source code from 1993 but not 2004 World of Warcraft’s. I know you’re an ignorant kid who knows nothing about how software works, but you really shouldn’t take Activision PR statements at face value. They have no qualms will bullcrapping or flat out lying to customers. As evidence for this, Activision publicly stated that the original client doesn’t run on Windows 10 anymore even though people still use it to play on private servers on Windows 10 today. They LIE.
Classic is NOT “as authentic as possible reproduction of Vanilla.” The original code could have and should have been updated instead of this Legion frankenstein turd that was laid on our chests.
Okay, first, I’m an IT professional working in the games industry. No-one cares, including me, but you brought it up. So I understand a bit about how this all works.
Second, please do yourself and others the courtesy of getting informed about Classic before getting angry about things you have wrong:
It’s my experience, ironically, that anyone who calls himself an “IT professional” doesn’t know much about how software actually works.
You just linked a PR statement that has bald faced lies in it. They said the original client doesn’t work in Windows 10. It does.
Thanks for proving my point.
That presentation was a PR statement. A disgusting farce, really. “Doesn’t reflect Blizzard quality.” Yeah, and I guess that demoralizing shout errors, hunters being completely broken, and thousands of random glitches everywhere reflects Blizzard quality. Idiots.
If you actually care about the quality of the experience for players (hint: Activision doesn’t), the best and most efficient way to do this release was to update the original code.
They are NEVER going to fix all the bugs that arose from migrating old data to a Legion client. NEVER. You’d think, playing a hunter, one of the most mutilated classes, that you’d appreciate that, but apparently not.
Be sure you keep fragmenting the community into a dozen flavors!
Then it can die faster!
And your reply proves how little you understand about how multiplayer games work, the security layers necessary on the modern internet, and how the way data is handled has changed in 15 years. Going with the Legion client was pretty much their only option. Classic has benefited from that. There is no way to go back to your ISDN connections, 2004 hardware, and CRT monitors, I’m sorry.
And yet despite that we have Classic, which is pretty darn close. I’m not complaining, yet you guys never stop it seems.
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I’ve written internet multiplayer code. Have you?
I’ve forgotten more about software engineering than you’ll ever know.
The 1993 Doom code was updated by people in their spare time to work with modern systems.
The only reason we ended up with this embarrassing disaster of a product was because of Activision cost cutting. It was simply cheaper to host only one server infrastructure than maintain another one just for classic. Notice how EVERY decision was driven purely by money and not their claimed goal for authenticity? “Our number one priority was authenticity…except we don’t want to deal with customer support calls for loot so we’ll let people trade loot.”
The number one priority was money. Every decision was made based on what would be the cheapest. You can’t tell a bunch of mouth breathers at Blizzcon that without getting booed off the stage, so they cooked up some BS that dummies like you would lap up without without a second thought.
Congrats, you’re part of the problem!
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No, but I’ve designed systems that have to work within the limitations of it, what can be seen by the client, what has to stay on the server for security reasons, what keeps data size reasonable, and all the myriads of problems those issues cause when all you want to do is have two players see the same thing.
But meh, this is pointless chestbeating now. Just play and enjoy the game that is here after 10 years of lobbying. Or don’t play it. But leave it the heck alone.
I had a key chain in vanilla.
Why doesn’t classic? I thought authenticity was the #1 goal?
How is allowing people to repeatedly farm the last boss of a dungeon “more secure” than vanilla’s client and server code, which didn’t have that exploit?
WOW there sure is a heavy aroma of BULLCRAP around here, isn’t there?
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That has nothing to do with one client or another, that was entirely to do with the way they chose to keep server numbers down (which was necessary, even now we have more servers then population, imagine a year from now if they don’t merge).