I guess I’m just older now. It just seems crazy to me now, I remember sleeping less than 5 hours a night for weeks.
If the community consensus is #NoChanges then that’s fine really, I just won’t go for it again.
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Is it really excellent that people will gain the upgraded gear (which is better than some raid gear) for killing people 10-20 levels lower than them?
I wouldn’t mind as much if it wasn’t the 1.12 gear - but even the rank 10 blue gear from 1.12 is REALLY good in Classic.
People who get that upgraded gear will take 12 weeks at best to get that gear.
That’s over two months. Not everyone will be walking around in rank 13/14 items.
I’m talking about the rank 10 blues. Those blues in 1.12 are better than some items from MC/Onyxia/Early BWL.
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Grey enemies are honorless. 10-20 levels lower is grey. Killing level 50s won’t help anyone get HWL.
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Awesome can’t wait!
Also good job sticking to your guns on 1.12 AV
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Totally agree with your decision here. Furthermore, I think the 1.12 items are the right move. I know some people are worried about the items being too strong, but it will take much longer than people realize to acquire these items through the PvP/Honer system. Most of the youtube videos created about the ranking system are based on private servers where the populations are much larger than vanilla servers. On official servers the speed at which people can rank will be considerably slower when compared to what some people have become accustomed to on private servers.
I do hope that Alterac Valley will be in it’s most balanced form to create a fair battle between Alliance and Horde. The ease of capping the Horde East and West bunkers just outside of Drek, in contrast to the North and South outside of Vann is noticeably unbalanced in many iterations of AV. In addition the aggro of the Alliance NPCs vs the Horde NPCs near Drek and Vann are also not nearly the same. Having played both Horde and Alliance, I can say that AV is orders of magnitude easier to win as Alliance in most of its versions. It would be nice for the battleground to be as close to fair as possible to make the games more enjoyable for both factions.
it will take at least 1 month, of constant top 3 on your server with 150k+ honor a cycle to get it early, which is pretty much 20 hours a day doing nothing but pvp
Hmm, I could have sworn grey people gave honour in vanilla. I used to camp Redridge Mountains as a rogue all the time and I thought I got honour for it, but I could be wrong.
I assume it’s different on private servers because I just came from listening to tipsout on twitch and they were talking about how people would camp flight paths in menethil, stv, hillsbrad, etc which gave the impression that all members gave honour.
Dire Maul + Honor System + no BG’s…
Feralas/Azshara in Phase 2 is going to be crazy!
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there won’t be FP camping, its a pserver thing they didnt get right, or changed on purpose
Queue times have nothing to do with server population. It has everything to do with server faction balance and faction pvp participation.
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There will be high level zone camping tho. Places like Ungoro, Burning steppes, Plaguelands, Searing gorge, and even Blasted lands will be absolutely unplayable for anyone not 60.
FP camping was even a thing in Vanilla, though. I was a 60 rogue in vanilla and most of my time spent without battlegrounds was killing low level members of the Alliance. The only thing that deterred you was if you accidentally hit the flight master.
but you gain no honor for it after patch 1.4, they are worth nothing for 30sec
It was a thing to grief people, not a thing to farm honor.
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That’s made irrelevant by CCing them until the debuff wears off. Anytime I saw someone with that debuff I just made sure not to kill them until it wore off - which was pretty easy with sap/blind working as it did in Vanilla.
exactly, on pservers though, they don’t have the honorless buff, so its used to farm honor
The thing is - stuff like that will be the only way to get honor for the 2nd phase. That’s the point I’m trying to make - people are going to try to optimize their honor gains, it’s inevitable.
You’re missing what I’m saying. When that buff was introduced in Vanilla, all you had to do was sap/sheep/root/whatever them for 20 seconds until the buff ran off. Really not much of an inconvenience.