Should classic plus be a thing, or just reset the game again and go from vanilla to wrath over and over?
Classic cata. As cool as itâd be to get brand new classic style content, raids, etc, I just donât see them devoting the development time.
4 Likes
Reset with qol changes
5 Likes
Yes i think this has overwhelmingly been the option most people wanted at the end of classic, and the end of classic tbc, and the end of classic wrath.
I think only classic+ can truely provide the one thing thatâs been missing from classic, which is to say content that wasnât completed 15 years ago and min maxed to death on private servers. It would be great to have bosses where we donât know the strats, and gear that shakes up these decades old bis lists, but yes i donât think blizzard is willing to put that level of effort into classic.
2 Likes
No. Classic + means to many different things to everyone. Ppl need to say what they want.
Blizz thinks the best part of vanilla was no RDF. So everything they do will include that. It is not at all what was great about vanilla and i refuse to play any other version of wow ever again that does not include rdf. The includes retail. They removed rdf from mythic plus, so i will never play retail. They need to acknowledge that we are capable of pugging group content.
They need to stick to the characters abilitoes and functions. Not dual spec and rdf. There is nothong wrong woth qol improvememts. Removimg the ability to enchant stuff is not qol. Its dumbing down the game. Lole retail did.
3 Likes
Maybe itâs time to realize WoW is dead; itâs on life supportâŚjust going through the motions of âbeing aliveâ, without actually being a life.
How many of us are having, at the very least, the same amount of fun as we did âback thenâ?
2 Likes
I would say classic plus, new retro raids, reformed pvp system, new zones, and possibly tbc talents to make meme specs viable.
1 Like
I agree. A classic plus with some new content might spark some interest. I was part of the crowd that came back for classic. So i think my feelings now are probably close to what others that had quit and came back are feeling. They dont get it. They dont understand what we want. I think the only thing they could do to keep it alive is a wow 2. Not classic plus. Do the era server and a season of mastery now and again. Other than that, restart it all with new everything. But they would have to do more than just retail version of vanilla. They would have to repalce every single graphic and animation. It would have to look like wow 2.
1 Like
that was the best part of vanilla
1 Like
Yeah, trying to find a healer or tank for 2 hours while standing in town and not playing was exhilarating.
3 Likes
No it wasnt. It was intended to be in at launch. One of many items that if they had made it in as intended. All of the idiots would be claiming how important it was. Some ppl are not smart enough to know the difference between a change that made an area better than it was, or a change that made the game worse. Those same ppl are not smart enough to know that most ppl wanted to replay vanilla for.
It is also extremely easy to prove. Remove rdf from retail and add it to classic vanilla and see which game ppl prefer.
Its also the same with wotlk. Rdf was an improvement. But it wasnt the best part of wotlk. Thats why i am, and many others, are still playing it. But cata will be a different story. Remove rdf and see what happens. Its also the reason i quit retail. No rdf for mythic plus means i will play other games instead.
3 Likes
The current classic team is barely competent enough to add a new difficulty to existing dungeons. They though adding frost patches that do massive damage with a boss that does an 8 second stun (and trash that does shorter stuns) was a good idea, a debuff that makes mobs heal in a dungeon with a caster boss, etc. They couldnât even fix water in Wintergrasp for 6 months.
The team is not capable of making an entire new xpac. If Classic+ happens its going to be a dumpster fire.
4 Likes
Which theyâve repeated they will never do, so youâre out of luck there.
Not much of a scientist are you? Iâll break it down for you. When performing an experiment you want to limit the difference between the control subject and the test subject to only one variable, classic and retail are way to widely deviated for that to be a valid test.
RDF was intended to be in at classic launch? By who? I seem to recall blizz promising âno changesâ or do you mean the WotLK classic launch where blizzard specifically said they have no plans to implement RDF?
Era stays as is
HC is there
Retail is there.
SoM2 is coming.
And now bring Cataclysm.
Everyone should be happy.
If you donât want Cataclysm, just donât play it.
I never liked Vanilla, so Iâm not gonna play Era. But Iâd never ask NOT to have Era. Others like it.
Some just canât handle the idea of others liking something else.
3 Likes
itâs called Cataclysm.
2 Likes
RDF is not a good tool. Gatekeeping has to be had at some level.
The devs have shown they donât care enough about the game for anything ânewâ to be any good. Being different from retail isnât going to miraculously make new content good. Just keep releasing Classic expansions and people will go where they want
Why do you need gatekeeping at Heroic level?
Also, RDF Is not just daily Heroics. Itâs also all dungeons between 15-79.
1 Like
It would have been better to make an Era of each Expansion, and then a âPlusâ version of each with SoM.
Era is the museum.
SoM is the reinterpretation of the art in the âEra Museumâ.
HC is the âNightmare Difficultyâ of each Era.
Classic is just the âlead upâ to the previous three.
Retail is the future of the game.
Thatâs how it should have been laid out. That would have made âeveryoneâ happy. Well, everyone but the bean counters. But screw those twits.
2 Likes