Oh I have a long list of names, both Horde and Alliance, that I know what the team and I are in for when I see them (I always check the opposing teams roster once the game starts).
For example, when I see Cezar I know there is going to be some mid fighting and back capping. He doesn’t like it when you try to back cap East or West FW base towers either. He’s not shy about corpse looting you even though you’re just bein neighborly and saying hello. He hates Mulv.
Pombussy is a name burned into my brain because they and another couple of alliance love to back cap bunkers against solo defenders when its mere seconds away from burning. Id be spinning the flag against whoever and then drop dead near instantly because the mage in question had their CDs ready for such an occasion.
also click to move mobas are trash and not skillful. You could have picked any other moba but you picked the 2 grandma mobas that hardly have any skill expression lmao.
“its so hard to sit in a lane then run around with 5 in a late game snowball”+
Why are you making team comps for BGs in era to begin with?
Why would you need team comps in era to begin with?
Oh I know…
You just want to farm randomly based teams in the pretense of being “good PvPers.”
And…
When a partial premade shows up to a random BG in which I’m a part of their team…
Now I have to worry about that premade’s authoritarianism if I’m not conforming to their standards because they think they are in command of that particular BG now.
Because two preformed teams vsing each other is fun when both teams are built to the best strengths they have available to them. I am not sure why that is even a question. It’s the same as building arena teams or RBG teams.
This is a red herring fallacy - which means it can safely be discarded as it does not qualify as an argument (because nobody claimed that - you did)
You don’t have to listen to the partial premade - you can go off doing whatever useful or useless thing you want to. But this is the reason people group up - to avoid playing with players who are not actively trying to win the BG
Mostly I just defend IceWing bunker and Stonhearth bunker unless I get run over; and that happens almost every time given enough time in game. I do always try to get them back, but I never re-cap Allies GY’s because I want the Horde spawn points to progress Northward so that they make progress and are less likely to get into a turtle.
I am not oppose to Turtles, I love fighting them but I try not to make them too solid because then horde may stop Q’n up, and that’s NFG.
There’s no separate queue here like there is in Cata with rated BGs. You’re still using the random BG system to queue with. You wouldn’t be trying to have me believe that premades are just out to fight other premades in fair combat, are you?
You’re absolutely right.
All I have to provide is measly, anecdotal testimony of the constant premades I’ve faced against, if you can barely call it that, in random BGs throughout the entirety of WoWs existence.
The kicking features are the enforcement tool used by groups that act on mob impulse. I’ve been kicked out plenty of times in BGs for being AFK when I wasn’t AFK at all.
It just takes a certain number of players and congruency to activate the kicking features anywhere, RDF; BGs.
Of course there are no separate ques. You work with what you have. Does there being no RBG que mean you are supposed to q up solo always and forever?
Majority of people who play premades do this for fun, yes
Now are there premades who give up instantly when losing or when up against a better team? Sure there are some like that - but pugs do it to when theyre against a better pug so its not a very valid argument to make
Back in classic 2020, we had a gigantic wargames scene and discord where we would have 10-12 games going using this feature and people are still using it to this day. There was also the classic battleground tournaments - proving there is an audience who enjoys premade vs premade
Take me for example - every fresh server I go with my squad with the sole purpose of gearing up and meeting all the possible new premades we get to fight. I have literally been doing this for 10 years and it is one of the sole reasons I play
Thanks for clarifying that this is you speaking from an emotional standpoint - you could always jsut as easily join a premade discord and meet some friends - and perhaps learn new ways to play these BGs by networking with different people
These systems are abused by lots of people. Doesn’t make it right. What about that group of people who reported that streamer on DD for “breaking phase rules”? Its simply losers abusing a system.
I am aware, I have been victim of this and I don’t believe it should exist in the way it does now but it wil never change
But you aren’t really in a position to lump up a group of people and concluding it is “for x reasons only” when you don’t really have any way at all to prove that other than what you believe - especially when there is evidence against this statement.
I don’t mean to say “everyone who solo ques doesn’t take the game seriously” - forming groups is just a way to min max. You min max raids by forming rosters and comps, you minmax dungeons by having a tank and healer, you minmax battlegrounds by ensuring you have a balanced spread of classes, like having healers for example. That’s all
I’ve found most ‘solo queuers’ that don’t take it seriously, couldn’t even if they wanted to. 99% of time they are bad pvp players making an excuse.
Same with almost all excuses for not performing well in pvp.
Just because it allows players to queue WSG, those who queue in and play like noobs and refuse to improve. Are still noobs and a negative to their team - even without ranked queue.
No it doesn’t. Random battleground means you will be qued into a random battleground - implying you can join anything from warsong 1 or warsong 32. if you notice when you talk to the warsong NPC, you can choose not to join random battleground and instead select a specific game you want, like warsong 4 (making it not random)
It does not mean “join solo shuffle battlegrounds”, because you are able to form a group and join the game
Classic wow, and everything surrounding it - is built around grouping and socializing. PvP is no different - it is not the exception to the rule, which is why we can join battlegrounds as groups (it was intended)
No it isn’t. That is not what it says. It says “join random battleground”, not “join solo shuffle battleground”. This proves itself in 2 ways:
You are able to join a NON random battleground manually
and
you are able to join as a group
So your claim is false demonstrably.
You don’t have to join a premade. You might get into a game with 5 or 7 or 2 in groups or whatever, but you do not need to be in one. the only purpose the q system serves is to fill the battlegrounds with players.
I think they are saying that people yell at them in the BGs and it is a bad experience.
Adding ranked queue with MMR would help a lot of Wafectus’ issues I think. The problem seems to be that they are ending up in games in which the average skill level is far from their own and thus they not performing to a level their team expects and their team is saying mean stuff to them.
Please put me in groups that don’t care what others are doing.
Please put me in groups where nerds like you aren’t whisper-invading me with criticisms in the middle of the BG.
Please put me in groups where I don’t have to worry about others reporting, berating, criticizing, insulting others because the BG isn’t going their way, and just accepting the BG for the random team it put out.