LOL it’s still early yet too…Wait till more people are at 60 and have their BiS gear from raids. That will change eventually. The question is whether or not it will happen before Phase 3 hits and the BGs are put in. People who no longer have a set goal or have accomplished everything they want to do in the game will eventually gravitate toward griefing others to make sure they stay on top as long as possible
The hardcore raiders pushed blizzard to their limits. They would destroy content and close the account until new content. Now everyone wants classic but no changes. My question is. How long can you play classic after all is done? You wont get bored without new content? All the people that rave and cry about classic to not change are the same people that will quit. Consider this an mmorpg single player that will end with Naxx. Now you beat the game. Then what? Retail? Another game? Back to retail?
Think logic not stupid.
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If we’re thinking logically and not stupidly, then the answer is to re-release the subsequent expansions as seperate server client so that players can expierience “new” content. This ensures that classic remains as it is, gives players who supported the classic initiative so that they could hopefully see earlier expanisons re-released and saves development fees so that retail can recieve priority.
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yeah like naxx being cleared day2 of wotlks release then literally nothing to do for months besides get 1vs10’d by DKs because they werent completely broken
great balance. great content. great game.
bring back interrupt on fok too while you’re at it.
As opposed to classic where you Down Ragnaros, get your set gear and then do nothing but camp crossroads?
good for you, that has nothing to do with the fact that there are world pvp guilds and world pvp culture and guild rivalrys tied to it. and you dont care if thats ruined
All of those things will still be there if BC and Wrath servers are launched independantly of the classic servers.
No one is saying you cant add new content… what alot of people dont want is add the same things people left for in the first place, lfg, flying, horde paladins, alliance shamans, the big reset, legacy sets, dailies etc etc is and will all ways be the path to retail…
Why add the same retail crap people left for in the first place, So yes be logical not stupic
small brain
Which is why you launch BC and Wolk seperately from classic.
Because there are no changes you can make to classic that won’t hurt it more then help it.
I think it’s interesting that despite literally everything you just mentioned, WoW subs continued to grow.
It wasn’t until they got rid of the old talent trees and destroyed the entire vanilla world in Cata that they began to decline, and have never been able to recover those numbers.
Apparently lfg, flying, horde paladins, alliance shamans, legacy sets, and dailies weren’t as large of a deterrence as people make them out to be, since all of this existed when interest in the game was at its highest.
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you fail to mention people tolerated the changes but didnt like them. until the game through and through was crap. those things mentioned did help ruin the game. so why do it again.
The game was never considered “ruined” at that point, so there is no point in mentioning it.
12.5 million people considered it good enough to pay to play.
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Not really, I’d say 75% of the population is not really looking for a fight but it’s just an option if it’s there for them. I’ve seen people just act awkwardly on edge and all it takes is one person to jump in and everyone jumps in after. To me, carebears is joining a server knowing your faction has the numbers so it doesn’t matter what you do and how sloppy of a player you’re… you have the numbers advantage and they’ll carry you. Every PvP server i’ve played in on retail from vanilla to current has been Horde dominant.
From what you’re saying it sounds more a akin to the experience in GW2 where people will have literal guild wars on pvp maps. I can understand an experience like that but i’d say it’s definitely the minority of the players there. Whether it’s the other faction sieging the other’s capital or TM/SS raids.
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TBC was cool, just hated flying because it killed World PVP and made the world feel small in the outlands. Much prefer classic but the BG pvp was pretty fun and arenas were a stellar addition.
You got some of those rose tinted glasses on. I’m pretty sure the initial release of LFG made it so you would HAVE TO group with people on your server. I don’t think cross realm became a thing until Cata.
I hear what you’re saying but the difference was the game became less needlessly tedious by having people wait around a city for 2 hours for a group and then going to a dungeon. I could understand if the area outside the instance had elites and quests like how DM is but they don’t. At the very least I could understand an attunement/quest chain to get to the dungeon and unlock it but vetting against it just because you think you should have to run to it every single time is a pretty dumb reasoning.
I just get the impression you’re kicked a lot from groups based on the group-building statement. The great thing about LFG is that if you have a troll that ninja loots, you can still progress after they hearth out instead of that ruining your entire run and day.
Recreating classic was a means to bring back the classic players that played on classic private servers…
And as i stated earlier, alot of classic players endured the changes that came in TBC, but it was the beginning off the end…
And a lot of players enjoyed TBC and joined the game, which is why there were 3 million more players during TBC than during vanilla.
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im not saying they dident, but a majority of those resubbing is people that have left, and came back for classic… and people that ultimatly left couse of changes that started hapening in TBC…
many many years ago, alot of us, said the same thing, the changes imposed would lead to people eventually quitting, and they did… now ask yourself, you bring back the classic people with classic servers, their happy, but then you create TBC, wich is essentially why they left, why not create content within the classic rule set ?.. wouldent that be smarter ?
Then let retail people play TBC on retail, wich they can
You have literally zero way of knowing how many people that are playing Classic are doing so because they loved Vanilla, or how many didn’t play Vanilla and wanted to check it out, or how many loved TBC/Wrath and wanted to play Classic because it’s closer to those experiences than retail.
Your entire argument is built off of “facts” you can’t actually quantify.
Then you create TBC and people who like Classic… continue playing Classic? And those who prefer to move on to TBC move on to TBC? This is a non-issue.
Classic will always be here; the servers won’t be replaced by TBC. And if so many people preferred vanilla to TBC, as you say, then you’ll still have a sizeable population there, anyway.
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