Classic + is the only way, doing TBC and onward would be horrible!

The last time i said entitled in a post i almost got crucified lol. Im on your side though

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Which is funny because it wouldn’t, on the pserver market the 2 most popular server types were Vanilla and Wrath, followed by TBC

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You’d be wrong.

Lots of people would actually like to see them go to TBC after Classic but ONLY IF it were separate from the Classic server so as not to over write them. Blizzard has already said they could take this step, so YES, I think they would do THAT again. They’ve also said they might consider Wrath since it’s so beloved.

However, I don’t think ANYONE is considering anything past Cata, because that’s where they started losing people and they know that.

The likely progression would be Classic > TBC > Wrath > DONE.

It might be a copy. it might be a transfer. That would be up to them to decide the logistics. A copy would assume it would work like the PTR though, and I’m not sure they could or would do it that way. Maybe, but maybe not.

Again, just because you haven’t reasoned it all out, doesn’t mean I’M not making sense.

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Your missing a big point. Eventually we will hit a wall at wotlk. No one wants data. So we’re now stuck at wotlk and retail? U make no sense.

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You make no sense.

For one they probably wouldn’t stop at Wrath
For another, done properly EACH type would always be available, want to play Classic one day and TBC the next? you can

Classic isn’t even really that good, its just better than BFA.

TBC is where the game was epic.

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LFG and flying DIDN’T kill WoW.

If flying killed WoW, explain way subs went UP in TBC and Wrath?

If LFG killed WoW, explain why subs were at their HIGHEST when is was released in Wrath and STAYED THERE until Cata?

The breaking of the world in Cata is what REALLY killed WoW. THAT is when the WoW story was no longer a continuation of the Warcraft story and was all new stuff PLUS they started changing the way the game played on top of it which completely alienated MILLIONS of players. The sub numbers PROVE that.

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i feel like the things that have hurt retail the most are the gradual removal of the community aspect. LFG played a part in that but i think the things that have hurt it the most were CRZ and sharding and other minor things like the decline in writing and most expansions not having a strong theme that draws players in.

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I can get behind this. I think CRZ was the biggest culprit. Blizzard expanded up to 240 servers, then in Cata they all started emptying out.

Rather than pull the plug on a bunch of them, they decided to let people on different servers see each other. This COMPLETELY eliminated server identity.

Yeah, shutting down servers would have done that to an extent, but it would have been SHORT TERM, as new players rolled on the servers that were left and older player got acclimated to a new server, but you still would have had a SINGLE server to pull from for groups and you would be KNOWN on your server whether good or bad.

Then when you add to that the hit or miss writing, yeah, it begins to hurt the game A LOT.

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Absolutely not. Classic is the LFR hero game and #NoChanges means No Changes. If you want Classic+ go to retail.

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On no, not C+ :frowning:

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yeah they really should have just merged servers. people would have considered it a sign of “wow dying” but it would have been healthier for the game because retail has way too many servers anyway as you pointed out

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I have to respectfully disagree with OP. Since Classic was announced and I began to revisit these forums, I have seen a lot of people express that they would like to see the same done for TBC and WOLK. Wrath does not excite me for my own personal reasons but I must recognize that the thought of it being revisited as we are doing with classic is probably the most popular one folks have chimed in about. Surprisingly, to me at least, I have also seen some comments that people who bailed when pandas showed up regret not playing that one through.

For me, there have been good and bad things about each installment. The parts I liked best do not , for the most, part align with what has been the most popular. I would guess the same is true for others. Also, there’s the fact that not everyone pre-ordered each XP or started at the launch of it. Some may have arrived very late. I did that a couple times.

I was thinking today that if there was an un-nerfed version of wow all the way through and the option to start at the beginning of any EP, as long as you bought it at some point, that maybe there are enough people that enjoyed each to make it worthwhile having the uncut content there for them to continue playing.

I know it’s not a popular one right now but I got WOD very late. I was just beginning to enjoy it a lot when they choked it to death in prep for the launch of legion. I still like building my garrisons in retail, even if they smashed the gold making potential to the ground. I’d love to keep a couple toons in that era, and a couple on the farm at Halfhill and one or 2 at Argent Tournament. I do anyhow, but even if I have them do nothing else, they quickly out-level the content by a lot.

These in-between EPs are irrelevant right now because they made them that way intentionally, to sell whatever is new. I think if they would just undo the nerfing and let people in where they want, that all or most of those EPs could have a robust fan base playing them.

LFG was highest during wrath cuz it was new. slowly people realized it was garbage.

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Eh, I’ll be honest, I’m playing Classic right now because I’m still kind of hoping for a progression server type deal. Eventually I’ll want to hit TBC with this character, and later Wrath, etc.

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Bull. LFG had nothing to do with subs dropping as much as they did IN THE NEXT EXPANSION.

Nice try with the revisionist history.

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subs dropped because wrath had a long content drought and cataclysm tried to appeal to the hardcore crowd because of complaints about wrath being too easy which drove off more people. it was not because of LFG or flying

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Going on what week 4 and we are talking about classic + content when 1/4th of the content now won’t be out easily for a year or so… nice!

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Surprisingly the content drought didn’t lead to a huge decline in subs, the decline started a couple months into cata though.

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People wanted Vanilla because they enjoyed it and many of us argued for it even though we had no real intentions of ever playing it. There are people that want TBC and Wrath servers and they deserve them just as much as an Vanilla player did with Classic.

Too argue you deserved your favorite version and then to actively deny others their version makes you one sorry individual.

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