Classic + is the only way, doing TBC and onward would be horrible!

[Klareh-grobbulus]

If they decide to move forward they need to touch up TBC/WolK with Classic in mind!

Otherwise its just watching the game go to crap all over again.

[Petrolsk-tichondrius (Petrolsk)]

you’re making weird assumptions that people want it to keep going beyond WotLK,

The only assumption I think I’ve made is that Classic Wrath would not do well compared to Classic WoW.

[Tenshirou-feathermoon (Tenshirou)]

I am going to repeat myself here:

Classic + is the only way, doing TBC and onward would be horrible!

They are not. Look at the spread of skills. Then consider that some classes do not have an interrupt BEFORE you outlevel the areas. This is important because if we played with current mechanics, you will literally not be able to do what made a lot of the fun parts, aka using your utilities. Add in the current level scaling and item level crush, plus lack of set bonuses, and you might as well ask, why do you not want to play old Azeroth with current mechanics and classes?

We want TBC the way TBC was when it was the main game BECAUSE we liked that version. If you want to change it or make it part of the current classic version, then it makes as much sense to make Classic play with Retail mechanics.

[Brother-deviate-delight]

Yet, in the OP, you talk about people flying away from city raids which… doesn’t happen in TBC or WotLK…

So yeah, it does seem like you’re assuming that people want it to keep going beyond that.

[Reece-westfall]

Point taken. I’m one of those people. I also happen to know there’s plenty of WPvP on normal servers with flying. But for those that want to dig their heals in the ground about flying destroying WPvP this is a viable option for them.

[Petrolsk-tichondrius (Petrolsk)]

you talk about people flying away from city raids

What are you talking about?

[Brother-deviate-delight]

Bah, nm, mistook you for the OP for some reason. Which does talk about that.

[Tenshirou-feathermoon (Tenshirou)]

Probably he didnt play during Vanilla, TBC, or Wrath when YOU COULDNT FLY FROM THE CAPITAL CITES and the guards in the main hubs in TBC and Wrath would murder you for doing it.

[Boann-incendius]

He has a point.

So you do TBC and WOTLK… then what?

At some point you have to float classic + because none of us are interested in cata.

[Troodrood-zuljin (Troodrood)]

Some of the people who start trolling threads, just in general, don’t even play the game at all.

Wpvp died in BC because there was enough end game to keep people busy and people on PvP servers had something else to do.

[Tenshirou-feathermoon (Tenshirou)]

people on PvP servers had something else to do.

cough BG cough
cough arena cough

[Troodrood-zuljin (Troodrood)]

The reason wpvp was so popular was because the end game was weak. Hardly anybody raided. Do you have numbers for bgs and arenas?

It is commonly said that instanced pvp killed wpvp. So which is it?

[Brother-deviate-delight]

Why? People want to play those versions of the game… some will lose interest and others will fill in, etc.

When I play an old Mario because I like the old Mario, I don’t feel like I need Nintendo to develop new content for it.

[Boann-incendius]

The point is regardless of whether or not they do TBC and WOTLK, they will still be faced with having to make a decision on classic+.

No one wants to play cata. Classic + is something they will have to face eventually. He makes a great point.

[Heph-whitemane]

So you want to split Up the player base 4 ways? That doesn’t even sound right. LFG and flying killed wow. Tell that to millions of people who quit wow for these reasons. There’s a reason no one plays retail anymore

Translation: I know TBC is wildly more popular than classic MY FAVORITE so in order for me to relive my dreams I can’t allow you to live yours!

[Tenshirou-feathermoon (Tenshirou)]

Who knows. That was 10-15 years ago.

At this point, with all the wrong things I have seem people say about that time, I have no choice but to think most saying they want Classic+ didnt start playing WoW until Cata or only played on private servers.

[Troodrood-zuljin (Troodrood)]

Unfortunately, given the increased emphasis on grouping to level, few new players will be able to join classic in progress and level up. Vanilla was advertised as the game anyone could play at any time. Now in a lot of zones it is hard to find groups as some zones have become almost abandoned during off hours.

[Brother-deviate-delight]

You can literally solo to endgame <.<

[Troodrood-zuljin (Troodrood)]

Indeed you can, as long as you frequently change zones and do lots of mob grinding.

I dare you to put a character in Hillsbrad Foothills and solo the Battle for Hillsbrad quest chain at level.

Quests which were “easily soloable”, according to vanilla era comments, no longer are.

[Luca-kirtonos]

It depends on what people mean by classic+ as to whether it’s a good idea or not. The original “classic” 15 years ago was always changing, so change was actually part of the “Classic” experience. The prospect of something new kept a majority of players around for years and helped GROW the population over time. Sure, the current classic is popular but what about a year or two from now? Also, without new things coming out, what is going to bring new players in or old players back?

It’s obviously hard to accept change but not all change is bad. It is entirely possible to keep the classic experience without turning the game into retail again. Would it hurt the game to have more alternative specs for classes? Would it hurt the game to add more challenging raids with gear that is on par with stuff you can get in current raids?

-If they do anything I do think it should be like a year or two down the road. I’m also not sure if the current Blizzard knows how to add content to classic without turning it into more like retail.