Classic is Overtuned

Overtuned is overtuned and you KNOW it.

UBRS was a 10-15 man dungeon, which was later reduced to a 10 man dungeon.

At no point in classic was UBRS a 5 man dungeon.
You might be thinking of LBRS, which was 5 man.

I did tons of SC Cathedral and armory, I even tanked those with 2 Handers. Check my stats and achieves, got all of SM full gear. Its doable in 30s, mid 30s. easy

UBRS and LBRS are the same instance. The only difference is the part you clear. LBRS is clearly a 5 man, so UBRS is as well.

Did you do UBRS in classic bro? I can tell you now, it wasnt a 5 man back then. Have to have a key, Drakkisath had 2 dragonkin adds that needs to be kited or OT lol. Cannot be done with 5 man. ROFL. ofcourse, over time, people got purples and able to clear with 5 (only elite players)

Dude are you that dense? Or just trolling? How hard is it for you to understand that YOU ARE WRONG

Sounds to me like wahh wahh wahh.

#gitgud

This is one of the best necro jobs Iā€™ve ever seen. Complete with a break that says ā€œ20 days laterā€ and everything. Well done sir.

It isnā€™t. There is a separate key process to even enter UBRS and it is tuned to be a 10 man level 60 raid where LBRS can be done in the late 50s.

Having to unlock a part of the instance by a quest does not mean the part you unlock is a separate instance.

Or itā€™s because you never actually needed CC, and with druid and paladin tanks it was extremely common to just have them tank and AoE everything down.

"The second part is the ā€œupper spireā€, or UBRS , which is a much smaller area but intended for a 10-player raid group. The player cap was 15 prior to patch 1.10, when it was lowered to 10 to adjust the dungeonā€™s difficulty. "

Nah. This is how I remember it. I like it like this. I hate to beā€¦one of those typesā€¦but maybe classic isnā€™t really what youā€™re after.

Also, UBRS was never a ā€œ5-manā€ until people had at least a modicum of gear and a bit of class knowledge. Letā€™s not go off the deep end, here.

You made that up on the spot and you know it.

Not really no.

UBRS and LBRS were both a ā€œ10 man instanceā€ because they were one and the same instance, but (almost) no-one ever completed both in the same sitting. LBRS was a long run, and you couldnā€™t do any questing with a raid, and UBRS was far more lucrative, but you had to have a UBRS key (Seal of Ascension).

You have the internet, go read what wowhead says about it.

That site shills to cover up Blizzard overtuning content.

Yeah, okay weā€™re done here.

Just look at what they did to Arazzius the Cruel, at the pools of aggonar in hellfire pen, sometime after wotlk. They took his elite status away and he dies in a couple hits. I used to use that guy as a benchmark for how well my new character could solo an elite. I wasnā€™t able to kill him but some could get close. Nerfs like that make you feel like youā€™re fighting pillows.

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Just yesterday i put together a pug 9 man right before restart took us one hour 45 mins 2 tank 1 healer rest dps and obliterated ubrs , love classic have fun signing on now :slight_smile: