Considering you’re literally telling them it’s okay to tamper with the game’s data, which even THEY hold as sacrosanct?
I’m sorry, I’d rather an accurate 1.12 than a 1.12 with attempted guesswork difficulty. If I wanted that, I’d play on a pserver and risk my ISP getting pissed off. Again.
Well, I can understand that many do not like the 1.12 version that Blizzard is going with.
But, you have to start somewhere, and that was the last released version for Vanilla.
Deal with it.
You can’t please everyone.
I respect that fear bro, trust me I do.
Again, Im gonna take a leap of faith for the greater good of the game ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
But, but, but… we’re getting 1.13
Patch notes… reverse the changes listed.
We are starting with it, and thats fine Banned.
There is no conflict when it comes to my initial thread though and what you are saying.
Patch notes are not the actual patch data. They’re just a general list of changes that are easy for the community to digest.
The data does not exist anymore.
spiders to spawn = 4
change to:
Spiders to spawn = 5
Spawn timer = 900-1800 seconds
change to: 300-900 seconds
it really would be that easy
Ok. Now what about actual damage numbers?
Threat levels?
Were those ever discussed in the patch notes?
the actual numbers, probably not. but you can extrapolate what they could be, by taking the 1.12 numbers (which blizz has the data for), and doing a bit of math.
If the patch says, “damage reduced by 30%”. You take the 1.12 damage, and change it back
Yeah but that could also just be them rounding it up.
The actual numbers are gone. I don’t want guesswork. We have pservers for that.
I’ve played on pservers. They’re still very fun. Even if the numbers are made up… Which proves its not “all about the numbers”.
Its great to be as close as possible, which I personally, am willing to settle for.
The values that are changed back to are negligible. If nobody has the old data, then nobody can say otherwise.
I’d even be willing to settle for a general 10% buff to all NPCs
I have too, and I enjoyed myself. But if the opportunity for accurate numbers is there I’d rather have those than guesswork.
That’s part of the novelty of Blizzard finally doing this, having the actual data. Even if it’s easier than people thought.
Again leave all that to Blizzard who should have the experience, data and tech to do a good job.
Even so, perhaps leave threat and damage numbers intact? Only reverse that of what you know. But again I’m not going to speculate on what Blizzard can or cant do, nor what data they have or dont have.
I dont trust them when they say we ONLY happened to have the data for 1.12, the most nerfed patches of all.
Perhaps the board or Activision told Blizzard to “find” only that one patch.
So that Classic can cater to the masses and once again be on the path towards retail before we even begin
Server identity doesn’t matter if i can’t do a lot of things alone.
I won’t have to involve myself into the community…
If i don’t act negatively the server identity won’t have any impact
If i can skip or solo elites then, there is no need for social
If i don’t need specific craft because i can get good gear easily, there is no need for social
If MC/BWL are easy and can be done in a pick-up raid, there is no need for social
etc…
I’m not very social, but during Vanilla i was really implicated into the community because the game was forcing me. If nothing force us, a big part of players won’t. Like in BFA.
This only works with the assumption that the server code interacts with the Vanilla data exactly the same as before. We’re all hoping that Blizz gets it right, I guess that’s what beta is for.
Or perhaps they really were heavily disorganized. It wouldn’t surprise me. I used to be a hardcore enough fan of theirs that I’d religiously watch most of their documentaries and it surprised me how disorganized their business actually was when it came down to actually doing the work.
That, plus the stupid decisions my own company I work for has made, makes me think there’s probably a lot of truth in what they’re saying.
You could be right ofcourse. If so there is a bigger chance they will listen to us, and perhaps implement earlier patches that fit.
If there is a will, they will find a way.
If there are lies, then they dont want to do it period, perhaps due to the reason i just listed above.
Oh no. I fully believe they’re telling the truth when they say they were dumb enough to not make backups of earlier versions until around the time TBC was close to release. And by then it was already too late.
What REALLY grinds my gears though is how they say that at BlizzCon, but then do a PR speak post about AV and how they think 1.12 is the best version… when logically speaking, if they WERE telling the truth at BlizzCon, and I’ve no reason to doubt they were, every version before 1.12 of AV is gone. Overwritten.
PR speak, man. It pisses me off. Especially when it’s a lie meant to make you seem less incompetent.
No buffs needed.
1.12 “warts and all”.
If it’s easy-mode, so much the better.
Private servers are garbage (their players more-so) and should not be replicated.
Face it. They got it wrong.
A higher difficulty would help to tighten the knitting in the community.
Some would say your attitude on these forums is a bit trashy too.
We should thank the pservers for putting the pressure on Blizz to recreate Vanilla WoW